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Old 11-15-2022, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Germany
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It should be evident to everyone here online that they are actually using the "composite resonant neural synaptic activity at the level of quanta" in their brain to respond to these posts. That composite "thinker" is a spiritual being, NOT a physical being. When we had little knowledge of the difference between energy manifestations at the macro level and those at the level of quanta, we had an excuse for thinking we were just physical beings.

We should no longer have that excuse. None of your physical self is doing any of the "thinking" that produces the responses you transfer to your fingers and the computer. It exists at the level of quanta and that is beyond the macro level of physical beings. Of course, I realize that it is not remotely obvious or evident to most of you, but it should be, IMO! The quantum level of existence is the Spiritual level of being and it is beyond our sensory system capabilities.
Why should your opinion be obvious to everyone?
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:20 AM
 
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This response has become one of my favorites from you Tzaph, although I suspect it will not be equally appreciated by others here.
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Why should your opinion be obvious to everyone?
See Tzaph! QED!
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:56 AM
 
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See Tzaph! QED!
Of course. some of us are rational. Now, how about answering the question (without mentioning your alleged research).
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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How do believers and non-believers who consider themselves spiritual, look at this question?

You watched Father Stu. That was a quote from the movie.
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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How do believers and non-believers who consider themselves spiritual, look at this question?
Generally speaking, I believe believers and non-believers who consider themselves spiritual tend to look at this question spiritually. Atheists look at the question and the answer in other ways.
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:16 AM
 
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Of course "spiritual being" may be defined. Anything may be defined.
That can be done.

What cannot be done is to define something into actual existence.
And this is, I'm afraid, what you are trying to do.
Sort of like if definition is provided then it must be real.

Sorry, it does not work this way.
Spiritual being with aforementioned properties needs to demonstrated first, and then we all, together can go about developing the most appropriate definition for it.
True. I was thinking the same thing with regard to the problem of poorly defining whatever terms are used to attempt better understanding of what is true and what is not. No matter how well defined the term, people will still disagree about what is spiritual and what is not. What actually exists and what doesn't. People won't agree about the way things work either.

Forever the problem of even facts, sound reason and solid logic taking a "back seat" to all else that will have people believe whatever they like.

Good luck with all that!
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:19 AM
 
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This response has become one of my favorites from you Tzaph, although I suspect it will not be equally appreciated by others here.
No, no! I love it too! Though I have to admit this part gives me a good chuckle!

"It should be evident to everyone here..."
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:32 PM
 
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Of course. some of us are rational. Now, how about answering the question (without mentioning your alleged research).
You are being quite pedantic for someone rational and "allegedly" knowledgeable about the underlying science. Every manifestation of our Reality is a form of the energy composite that comprises it. Is that conceptually beyond your grasp? What is the energy composite that represents our mind (consciousness) comprised of? The answer should be obvious!

It is "a composite of the resonant neural synaptic activity at the level of quanta" ("fire") transformed by our brain ("combustibles"). It is really not "rocket science" unless you want to get into the "weeds" of the actual science (which is inappropriate here).
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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It should be evident to everyone here online that they are actually using the "composite resonant neural synaptic activity at the level of quanta" in their brain to respond to these posts. That composite "thinker" is a spiritual being, NOT a physical being. When we had little knowledge of the difference between energy manifestations at the macro level and those at the level of quanta, we had an excuse for thinking we were just physical beings.

We should no longer have that excuse. None of your physical self is doing any of the "thinking" that produces the responses you transfer to your fingers and the computer. It exists at the level of quanta and that is beyond the macro level of physical beings. Of course, I realize that it is not remotely obvious or evident to most of you, but it should be, IMO! The quantum level of existence is the Spiritual level of being and it is beyond our sensory system capabilities.
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No, no! I love it too! Though I have to admit this part gives me a good chuckle!
"It should be evident to everyone here..."
I am glad you got a chuckle out of it, but I DID qualify it later in the post.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:47 PM
 
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"story" is right
Doesn't really matter if it's a story or not for purposes of the discussion.
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