Why is it Admirable that Jesus Was a Martyr, But For Anyone Else It's an Insult? (priest, bible)
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Ok. So according to this theory, you just need to do a magic number of good things and then being a martyr is a plus? Got it!
I wonder what the number is.
For more details...check out the info source you referenced to even know details about Jesus.
That's what you are already using, so, use that some more...and it will give you greater understanding.
In recent years I think most often of that missionary that was killed off the coast of...India (?).
Yes, while it's not nice to laugh at someone who died...it's kind of hard not to in that case.
For those who missed this story, a culture that lived on an island made it known that they wished to remain isolated and did not want strangers intruding upon their world, but some missionary decided that HE was going to ignore that and bring them Christianity. He got shot full of arrows upon arrival.
That's not a martyr. That's an idiot with a huge sense of grandiosity,
For Christians, Jesus' death was to accomplish his role as savior (the updated sacrificial lamb from the Old Testament days).
He didn't do anything to act as "martyr". That would be a shallow and sensationalistic purpose not reflected in his life or the biblical scriptures.
Anyone labelling him a 'martyr' clearly doesn't understand him or his role.
Good point. Any church I ever attended didn't actually refer to Jesus himself as a martyr, but to those who died subsequently for the Christian religion, particularly in the earlier centuries of the church.
As a matter of fact, out of curiosity I Googled "Jesus as martyr" when this thread first appeared, because I'd never heard the reference before, but saw that the term is indeed applied to Jesus by some.
^ Exactly. Now, the apostles have sometimes been referred to as martyrs, as their deaths did not serve any supernatural purpose, but were more in line with dying for a cause or message.
Last edited by Thoreau424; 03-23-2022 at 02:03 PM..
Yes, while it's not nice to laugh at someone who died...it's kind of hard not to in that case.
For those who missed this story, a culture that lived on an island made it known that they wished to remain isolated and did not want strangers intruding upon their world, but some missionary decided that HE was going to ignore that and bring them Christianity. He got shot full of arrows upon arrival.
That's not a martyr. That's an idiot with a huge sense of grandiosity,
In fact, it was literally illegal to go to that island.
It's a plus for Jesus in the eyes of Christians as having sacrificed himself for the good of humanity, and it's not a minus for all those given the "martyr" designation by the church.
There's a list with links at the end of this article. It appears quite extensive.
Otherwise, your question was answered and should not bug you anymore. Once again, the term "martyr" as an insult is applied only to people who are not actually martyrs but act as if they are.
I didn't realize it was strictly or exclusively defined as "Christian."
For more details...check out the info source you referenced to even know details about Jesus.
That's what you are already using, so, use that some more...and it will give you greater understanding.
What?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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