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But nothing could cost God anything, because God is all in all and all-sufficient.
The marvel is that God became a man along with all the worst that that entails for absolutely no reason other than to benefit us.
When one considers the greatness of God and the insignificance of man, that's certainly worth more than a passing thought.
I was speaking of Jesus in his humanity, but of course in terms of his alleged deity as defined by the Church, the notion of sacrifice or cost is even more of a non-starter -- so thanks for pointing that out.
Given the assumptions that god exists, is great, and is nothing but love, yes, that is indeed remarkable. I wasn't a believer for nearly 40 years for nothing.
According to the story...Jesus was 100% innocent...was willing to die to save all others...and died by way of incredible torture, but forgave, blessed & loved his executioners.
If any other redeemed all humanity by their sacrifice, was innocent, and loved those that persecuted them...it would not be a insult.
Now add in...rose from the dead after being killed. So...to compare, anyone else would have to do that too.
As per the story.
Ok. So according to this theory, you just need to do a magic number of good things and then being a martyr is a plus? Got it!
I asked, specifically why it's a plus for Jesus, but a minus for anyone else.
Hopefully, I will learn something!
This has been bugging me for years.
It's a plus for Jesus in the eyes of Christians as having sacrificed himself for the good of humanity, and it's not a minus for all those given the "martyr" designation by the church.
There's a list with links at the end of this article. It appears quite extensive.
Otherwise, your question was answered and should not bug you anymore. Once again, the term "martyr" as an insult is applied only to people who are not actually martyrs but act as if they are.
Good point. Some might consider the 9/11 hijackers martyrs. Some might consider David Koresh a martyr.
Non-Christian religions would not consider Jesus a martyr. Martyr status is therefore also a matter of perspective.
In recent years I think most often of that missionary that was killed off the coast of...India (?).
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