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Old 02-06-2022, 11:07 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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It's gotten to the point that mother earth is in an SOS stage and we are all ignoring her pleas to get along with each other as a human race. Instead, Christians love to ostraichize things so much it's caused others to react in the same but opposite matter and thus the turf wars are going on globally and it isn't going to end well.

If this is what the kingdom of heaven is like I'm glad I'm a fugitive from Jesus and will gladly remain one for as long as I have breath.
Though I do have Faith in Jesus Christ and find wisdom in the Bible I will agree that some Christian sects take things to far. I'm not a church goer. Never have been never will be though I do enjoy fellowshipping when non dogmatic folks are around. I don't trouble folks over their religion and ask the same for myself. I will discuss but I won't argue.

Odd thing is the lady in my life and I didn't think there would ever be another after my last who I lost in a tragic manner is a Jehovah's Witness. She's actually breaking with dogma my even having me close to her at all let alone as a partner. I am not and will never declare myself as a JW and our close association is quite against one of that sects prime tenets. Devout members do not even have non members as friends let alone companion partners. But we've been through a LOT together, much tragedy and loss, abuse, great physical injury and we stood by each other through it all regardless of declared Faith.

She actually is risking being shunned for her relationship with me. She doesn't attend at the Hall and only speaks about her Faith with a couple of select close people of which I am one. I understand the whole "holier than thou" thing. But we both feel strongly that Jehovah (what name someone chooses to call Him by is of no matter to me) put us together for a reason. Not all people of Faith, any Faith, are "holier than thou" types who practice pompous self grandeur. The JW Faith has a lot of those latter types. But I don't judge my lady for her profession of that Faith and she does not in turn judge me for my not professing any one belief.

The "ostracizing" or looking down on people due to Faith isn't a constant. In organized religion that has some yahoo pounding on a pulpit declaring to know the mind of the Almighty, God, The Lord, Jehovah, Yahweh or by any name yes that's common enough. But there's exceptions to everything. We have been given free will and if we choose to interpret Scripture our own way and live our lives being grateful for the people in our lives He has seen us choose to be with and we have seen our relationships flower in His Grace devoid of dogmatic arcane tenets that dictate we can't do thus and remain in Grace what do we do? We keep on keeping on, that's what.

If any people of any Faith choose to ostracize, shun us, declare us to be unworthy to methat shows me and people like my lady that it's those people who are unworthy. Imbecilically so. Who can actually declare to know the mind of the Almighty? That is the ultimate arrogance.
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Old 02-07-2022, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Though I do have Faith in Jesus Christ and find wisdom in the Bible I will agree that some Christian sects take things to far. I'm not a church goer. Never have been never will be though I do enjoy fellowshipping when non dogmatic folks are around. I don't trouble folks over their religion and ask the same for myself. I will discuss but I won't argue.

Odd thing is the lady in my life and I didn't think there would ever be another after my last who I lost in a tragic manner is a Jehovah's Witness. She's actually breaking with dogma my even having me close to her at all let alone as a partner. I am not and will never declare myself as a JW and our close association is quite against one of that sects prime tenets. Devout members do not even have non members as friends let alone companion partners. But we've been through a LOT together, much tragedy and loss, abuse, great physical injury and we stood by each other through it all regardless of declared Faith.

She actually is risking being shunned for her relationship with me. She doesn't attend at the Hall and only speaks about her Faith with a couple of select close people of which I am one. I understand the whole "holier than thou" thing. But we both feel strongly that Jehovah (what name someone chooses to call Him by is of no matter to me) put us together for a reason. Not all people of Faith, any Faith, are "holier than thou" types who practice pompous self grandeur. The JW Faith has a lot of those latter types. But I don't judge my lady for her profession of that Faith and she does not in turn judge me for my not professing any one belief.

The "ostracizing" or looking down on people due to Faith isn't a constant. In organized religion that has some yahoo pounding on a pulpit declaring to know the mind of the Almighty, God, The Lord, Jehovah, Yahweh or by any name yes that's common enough. But there's exceptions to everything. We have been given free will and if we choose to interpret Scripture our own way and live our lives being grateful for the people in our lives He has seen us choose to be with and we have seen our relationships flower in His Grace devoid of dogmatic arcane tenets that dictate we can't do thus and remain in Grace what do we do? We keep on keeping on, that's what.

If any people of any Faith choose to ostracize, shun us, declare us to be unworthy to methat shows me and people like my lady that it's those people who are unworthy. Imbecilically so. Who can actually declare to know the mind of the Almighty? That is the ultimate arrogance.
Quite a few posters on City-Data. And yes.
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Though I do have Faith in Jesus Christ and find wisdom in the Bible I will agree that some Christian sects take things to far. I'm not a church goer. Never have been never will be though I do enjoy fellowshipping when non dogmatic folks are around. I don't trouble folks over their religion and ask the same for myself. I will discuss but I won't argue.

Odd thing is the lady in my life and I didn't think there would ever be another after my last who I lost in a tragic manner is a Jehovah's Witness. She's actually breaking with dogma my even having me close to her at all let alone as a partner. I am not and will never declare myself as a JW and our close association is quite against one of that sects prime tenets. Devout members do not even have non members as friends let alone companion partners. But we've been through a LOT together, much tragedy and loss, abuse, great physical injury and we stood by each other through it all regardless of declared Faith.

She actually is risking being shunned for her relationship with me. She doesn't attend at the Hall and only speaks about her Faith with a couple of select close people of which I am one. I understand the whole "holier than thou" thing. But we both feel strongly that Jehovah (what name someone chooses to call Him by is of no matter to me) put us together for a reason. Not all people of Faith, any Faith, are "holier than thou" types who practice pompous self grandeur. The JW Faith has a lot of those latter types. But I don't judge my lady for her profession of that Faith and she does not in turn judge me for my not professing any one belief.

The "ostracizing" or looking down on people due to Faith isn't a constant. In organized religion that has some yahoo pounding on a pulpit declaring to know the mind of the Almighty, God, The Lord, Jehovah, Yahweh or by any name yes that's common enough. But there's exceptions to everything. We have been given free will and if we choose to interpret Scripture our own way and live our lives being grateful for the people in our lives He has seen us choose to be with and we have seen our relationships flower in His Grace devoid of dogmatic arcane tenets that dictate we can't do thus and remain in Grace what do we do? We keep on keeping on, that's what.

If any people of any Faith choose to ostracize, shun us, declare us to be unworthy to methat shows me and people like my lady that it's those people who are unworthy. Imbecilically so. Who can actually declare to know the mind of the Almighty? That is the ultimate arrogance.
The Bible reveals the mind of God.
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The Bible reveals the mind of God.
If the bible isn't mere fiction, then I would say a more reasonable statement would be that it reveals that god has a mind, not how he thinks about some new and current situation.
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Old 02-07-2022, 10:45 AM
 
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The Bible reveals the mind of God.
Wrong. The Bible reveals Jesus. Jesus reveals the mind of God!! That is a serious mistake and flaw in your belief about God that you will regret making, Jimmie.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Quite a few posters on City-Data. And yes.
Not only do they know the mind of their god, they also communicate with it.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:14 AM
 
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Not only do they know the mind of their god, they also communicate with it.
And most amazingly, it always agrees with what they think!
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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And most amazingly, it always agrees with what they think!
LOL!

I think we have to remember that god occasionally changed his mind.

Can we all say Great Flood?
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Old 02-07-2022, 01:41 PM
 
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Not only do they know the mind of their god, they also communicate with it.
That is because they mistakenly believe the Bible is their God (or at least their God's inerrant and infallible word). The distinction is minimal. For all intents and purposes, the Bible is their God. God should be Jesus the Word of God.

Their Bible tells them He died and was "born again" to abide with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts" with agape love. They ignore the Comforter in favor of the Bible. It is a travesty of human ignorance and perversity.
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Old 02-07-2022, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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The unaware irony (& bigotry) of this original post is delicious..
That could very well be the most hilarious aspect of this thread It's like a loaded cannon with no control on what's being fired and where, but away it goes!
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