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Old 02-08-2022, 05:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GldnRule View Post
So, now...you continue to show how badly you just don't get it. That's what.
You claim to understand that God is a "all-knowing deity" that "knows everything".
We got that.
We also know where you got that information from: The Bible.
If you sourced that info from some other place...please let us know.
We also know that in The Bible...God instructs and directs His followers to pray.
So, we clued you in to what you were wondering about: Why prayer to a all-knowing God?
Answer to your inquiry: BECAUSE THE ALL-KNOWING GOD SAID TO DO THAT...over and over again.
Ya got it now?
I did not get "the information" from the bible.

You have made some erroneous assumptions.
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Old 02-08-2022, 06:57 PM
 
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I did not get "the information" from the bible.
You have made some erroneous assumptions.
then where did you get it?
The question was asked in post 121

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Originally Posted by GldnRule View Post
So, now...you continue to show how badly you just don't get it. That's what.
You claim to understand that God is a "all-knowing deity" that "knows everything".
We got that.
We also know where you got that information from: The Bible.
If you sourced that info from some other place...please let us know.
We also know that in The Bible...God instructs and directs His followers to pray.
So, we clued you in to what you were wondering about: Why prayer to a all-knowing God?
Answer to your inquiry: BECAUSE THE ALL-KNOWING GOD SAID TO DO THAT...over and over again.
Ya got it now?
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Old 02-08-2022, 08:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GldnRule View Post
So, now...you continue to show how badly you just don't get it. That's what.
You claim to understand that God is a "all-knowing deity" that "knows everything".
We got that.
We also know where you got that information from: The Bible.
If you sourced that info from some other place...please let us know.
We also know that in The Bible...God instructs and directs His followers to pray.
So, we clued you in to what you were wondering about: Why prayer to a all-knowing God?
Answer to your inquiry: BECAUSE THE ALL-KNOWING GOD SAID TO DO THAT...over and over again.
Ya got it now?
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Originally Posted by thinkingandwondering View Post
I did not get "the information" from the bible.

You have made some erroneous assumptions.
Oh, yeah?
Then you forgot the follow-up ^^^..."If you sourced that info from some other place...please let us know".
If the information that "God is all-knowing" did not come from The Bible, where did it come from?
Where would you or anyone else get that info from, if not from there?
I contend that The Bible is the only direct or indirect source there is of that information.
Anyway...it doesn't change the answer to your inquiry as to why people pray to the all-knowing God: Because God said to do that.
Suggestions & instructions when, where, and how to pray...even a sample prayer, is provided.
You didn't know this?
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Old 02-12-2022, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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I just came across the following quote from Soren Kierkegaard:

"The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.”
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Old 02-12-2022, 07:43 PM
 
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Oh, yeah?
Then you forgot the follow-up ^^^..."If you sourced that info from some other place...please let us know".
If the information that "God is all-knowing" did not come from The Bible, where did it come from?
Where would you or anyone else get that info from, if not from there?
I contend that The Bible is the only direct or indirect source there is of that information.

Anyway...it doesn't change the answer to your inquiry as to why people pray to the all-knowing God: Because God said to do that.
Suggestions & instructions when, where, and how to pray...even a sample prayer, is provided.
You didn't know this?
Your assumption making is off the charts.

I was indoctrinated by the Cathechism when I was around five or six years old.
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Old 02-12-2022, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I just came across the following quote from Soren Kierkegaard:

"The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.”
In that case, God is not really part of the equation.
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Old 02-12-2022, 09:06 PM
 
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Your assumption making is off the charts.

I was indoctrinated by the Cathechism when I was around five or six years old.
And what is the source of that information?
Virtually every paragraph is replete with biblical references.
You didn't know that?
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Old 02-13-2022, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I just came across the following quote from Soren Kierkegaard:

"The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.”
This is what I described as "meditative" prayer earlier in this thread. It is what a significant percentage of Christians emphasize over intercessory / requesting prayer, a few to the point of saying prayer is never for asking god for anything, not even the things he is alleged to have offered to us just for the asking.

Personally my feeling was that there was always way too much in the Bible about asking god for help / protection / support / encouragement / rescuing for anyone to credibly discount entirely that this is even a thing. I think the text supports both types of prayer. In my experience, though, meditative prayer was way more effective than the other kind, by a country mile. Tellingly, god is not needed to explain why meditative prayer works. It is literally no different than any other form of mediation or mindfulness, other than the assumptions in makes and the things it focuses on as a substitute for the ego's desires.

On the other hand for "prayer changes things" outside of one's attitude to work, god IS a necessary ingredient, and he is conspicuously absent.
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