If aliens created us through genetic tinkering, are they our God? (Revelations, spirits)
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It is looking more and more likely that we humans have been genetically modified from primitive apes(bonobo) and some other animal (read the website or ebook to find out what this other animal is). This qualified geneticist explains how hybrids between species ARE possible but not very often and points to examples on this website..
He points out the fact that apes have brown eyes, body hair, thicker bones, no voicebox capable of human-type language, and brown skin, but caucasians have blue eyes, thinner bones, voicebox and pink skin. These things (as well as others) cannot all be evolutionary.
If God is an alien, where does that leave our beliefs and if they technically 'made' us in a testube, is there another 'higher' God who created them?
I suspect that many of us do not want to confront these types of questions, remain with their faith and will be content to let the topic lie unanswered - even if the evidence is starting to point to us being genetically engineered.
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It is looking more and more likely that we humans have been genetically modified from primitive apes(bonobo) and some other animal (read the website or ebook to find out what this other animal is). This qualified geneticist explains how hybrids between species ARE possible but not very often and points to examples on this website..
Understanding that primitive is a subjective word, bonobos are not primitive apes. Specifically, they are extant great apes (along with humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans). This is in contrast to the lesser apes - gibbons. If your source is calling bonobos 'primitive apes', it's a tell.
Also, 'someone wrote an e-book' does not equate to the likelihood that humans are the product of some Dr. Frankenstein from elsewhere in the galaxy. I imagine that the fact that said author couldn't find a reputable publisher to put out his crank ideas will be held as evidence of a 'vast conspiracy' to suppress this fantastic claim. But really, it just screams that he's a crank.
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He points out the fact that apes have brown eyes, body hair, thicker bones, no voicebox capable of human-type language, and brown skin, but caucasians have blue eyes, thinner bones, voicebox and pink skin. These things (as well as others) cannot all be evolutionary.
The assertion that these trait differences 'cannot all be evolutionary' is baseless.
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If God is an alien, where does that leave our beliefs and if they technically 'made' us in a testube, is there another 'higher' God who created them?
It's turtles all the way down.
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I suspect that many of us do not want to confront these types of questions, remain with their faith and will be content to let the topic lie unanswered - even if the evidence is starting to point to us being genetically engineered.
I suppose if humans were 'made' by some biological entity from other than Earth, that would be a problem for theists. On the other hand, theists are pretty adept at dealing with all sorts of revelations (the age of the Earth, the common descent of all life, etc.) so I would imagine that most of them could deal with a mad-ET-making-people-in-a-lab situation - if that were actually supported by the evidence and not just crankery.
OP, you are reading gibberish, and then you want our opinion on it. If you'd studied any science at all, you'd know that correlation does not imply causation.
There is zero proof that humans evolved from monkeys/apes. Zero! No more than that one type of monkey evolved from another.
Whether aliens exist or not is another debate -- the one we won't resolve here on C-D.
When there is only a single person promoting a theory, one should be a little extra skeptical. When considering any claim, scientific or not, one should always consider the credibility of the source of the claim.
McCarthy rejects the modern Synthesis [of biological evolution], specifically rejecting natural selection as being the primary driver of evolution, and rejecting microevolution as being responsible for macroevolution. Instead, McCarthy literally turns the tree of life upside-down, and argues that hybridization between species is the primary driver of evolution, resulting in his Stabilization Theory. McCarthy also rejects the concepts of convergent evolution and adaptive radiation.
I note that McCarthy's "Stabilization Theory" was peer reviewed and rejected for publication.
In 2008, McCarthy wrote a manuscript describing his idea of "Stabilization Theory". The manuscript was submitted to Oxford University Press but rejected for publication because it did not have a consensus for publication from peer reviews. The theory has been described by PZ Myers as being similar to Saltationism, which is a type of non-Darwinian evolution. All of the theories of non-Darwinian evolution have been rejected as being unsupported by evidence since the time of the Modern Synthesis of evolution (1936-1947).
The so-called aliens never created man and women, as these are created by the Essence of Lord God who created demons and angels and powers of darkness and the life of plants and animals, where the aliens come from the angels that God rejected ..... even the virus which plagues the earth today are brought to man by the demons and angels to infest the people, as demons can go right inside of people through the spirit which has substance and infects people, where the aliens which are the lost angels hold people by what they accept through their words and deeds and keep them under their authority ..... See there are many skeptics of the spirits realms who make up ideas which sound true which probably came from demonic ideas
He points out the fact that apes have brown eyes, body hair, thicker bones, no voicebox capable of human-type language, and brown skin, but caucasians have blue eyes, thinner bones, voicebox and pink skin. These things (as well as others) cannot all be evolutionary.
Umm... as a brown-eyed person, I am constrained to point out that brown eyes are not exclusive to apes.
Also ... pink skin is not universal to humans, not by ANY means.
Do you not see the logical holes you could drive a truck through? You really should get out more.
There are so many different types of humans with different physical characteristics across the world that I do not believe we could all have come up through evolution. What is more, we are not moving towards one well-adapted form of human with similar physical characteristics but we seem to be staying in the different race lanes.
What happened before the earliest fossils (150,000 ??) years ago? We dont really have any idea do we?
There are so many different types of humans with different physical characteristics across the world that I do not believe we could all have come up through evolution.
And yet evolutionary biologists not only believe it, they have documented greater degrees of change in all sorts of organisms, and myriad lines of evidence - fossil, genetic, etc.
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What is more, we are not moving towards one well-adapted form of human with similar physical characteristics but we seem to be staying in the different race lanes.
Though there is a biological thing called race, in humans the colloquial term is more ethnic than biological. Also, evolution does not 'seek' some uniform type. If that happened, there wouldn't be ring species, sub-species, speciation, and so forth.
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What happened before the earliest fossils (150,000 ??) years ago? We dont really have any idea do we?
There are literally hundreds of human fossils (ie, fossils of one Homo species or another) from 150,000 YBP or earlier - Petralona 1, Galilee Man, Turkana Boy, the Dmanisi skulls, Taung Child, just to name a very few.
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