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Old 01-19-2022, 06:08 AM
 
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For the counterfactual "If aliens created us through genetic tinkering, are they our God," then by some definitions yes they would be our God.

However there is no evidence to suggest aliens created us through genetic tinkering, so there is nothing to suggest aliens are our God.
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Old 01-19-2022, 09:05 AM
 
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Where did the aliens come from ? How did they get created ? One has to keep going back to the point of beginning...which none of us can. We can only imagine and speculate to others our thoughts.
Yes creation is not about who or what created Man, it is about why does anything exist at all?
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:50 AM
 
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...it is about why does anything exist at all?
That's certainly the Big Question. Especially since, according to quantum mechanics, matter and antimatter are always created together (as confirmed in particle accelerators). And as matter and antimatter come together, they annihilate in a burst of energy. IOW, all the matter should have annihilated with all the antimatter early in the history of the Universe. But we've apparently got plenty of matter and no corresponding antimatter. (Prompting a very interesting book on the subject: The Mystery of the Missing Antimatter [2007] by Helen Quinn & Yossi Nir)
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Old 01-20-2022, 08:35 AM
 
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Yes creation is not about who or what created Man, it is about why does anything exist at all?
Is absolute non-existence even possible? If not, then something must have always existed, with no god required to explain this.
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:19 AM
 
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That's certainly the Big Question. Especially since, according to quantum mechanics, matter and antimatter are always created together (as confirmed in particle accelerators). And as matter and antimatter come together, they annihilate in a burst of energy. IOW, all the matter should have annihilated with all the antimatter early in the history of the Universe. But we've apparently got plenty of matter and no corresponding antimatter. (Prompting a very interesting book on the subject: The Mystery of the Missing Antimatter [2007] by Helen Quinn & Yossi Nir)
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:31 AM
 
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You could have anti-matter in one reality and matter in another - both existing in their own separate 'places' yet separated by 'something' which keeps them apart. That way they could both be existing at the same time.

I dont think we have a concept of no-time and possibly we dont have a concept of different dimensions separated by energetic boundaries.

Obviously something is going on in our skies which is not understood by most people. Possibly only some military scientists know what is going on or possibly they dont even know. However, clearly there IS something going on which at the moment we cannot describe or catalogue and that may involve matter/plasma/anti-matter or dimensional understandings.
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Old 01-21-2022, 04:37 AM
 
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Yes creation is not about who or what created Man, it is about why does anything exist at all?
It's an interesting question, and it has been observed that in the final analysis there are only two possibilities. Either stuff (things, energy, the universe, everything, etc.) has always existed, or stuff (again: things, energy, the universe, everything, etc.) spontaneously appeared - either way, there can have been no cause and the eventuality is simply a fact.

Not very satisfying to many human minds, but then stories and myths are often a result of unsatisfying observations.
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Old 01-21-2022, 11:39 AM
 
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You could have anti-matter in one reality and matter in another - both existing in their own separate 'places' yet separated by 'something' which keeps them apart. That way they could both be existing at the same time.

I dont think we have a concept of no-time and possibly we dont have a concept of different dimensions separated by energetic boundaries.

Obviously something is going on in our skies which is not understood by most people. Possibly only some military scientists know what is going on or possibly they dont even know. However, clearly there IS something going on which at the moment we cannot describe or catalogue and that may involve matter/plasma/anti-matter or dimensional understandings.
Just what is happening in your skies?
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Old 01-21-2022, 07:22 PM
 
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Just what is happening in your skies?
Same skies as yours. Weird things whizzing about which the government has acknowledged as UAPs.

So, you deny they exist then?
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Old 01-22-2022, 07:19 AM
 
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You could have anti-matter in one reality and matter in another - both existing in their own separate 'places' yet separated by 'something' which keeps them apart. That way they could both be existing at the same time.
Well, they're both created in this Universe, this reality, this place. An initial thought was, maybe the antimatter is located way off in a different area of the Universe. But no, some interaction between matter and antimatter would be inevitable, and we'd be able to detect that burst of energy from the annihilation.

The best current answer is that there is a very slight asymmetry in the creation process -- for every, say, million particles of antimatter, there was a million and one particles of matter. So most of the matter and antimatter did annihilate, but a little matter was left over after the annihilation, and that's the matter we have in our Universe.
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