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Old 03-26-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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That was my point. But this thread got moved from P&OC where people believe that kind of stuff.
LOL! Gotcha. I thought it was kind of weird that you'd have posted that. I'm evidently kind of dense today.

 
Old 03-26-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The defining characteristic is faith. Buddhism is a religion, as is Taoism or environmentalism.
I don't think putting an "ism" on something makes it a religion. Environmentalism is concern for the natural environment.

Lots of "isms" have nothing to do with faith or religion. Such as:

racism
socialism
capitalism
communism
Marxism
feminism
criticism
terrorism
 
Old 03-26-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Paganism and Christianity were merged under Constantine.
Even I learned that in Catholic school.
Heck, the "merging" started much earlier when second century "theologians" tried to reconcile Christianity with Neo-Platonism......to the great detriment of the Christian message, but that's what happens when a self-styled "clergy" has too much time on its hands.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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Even most of the stories in the Old Testament have pagan origins. The Flood,giants,etc. It is all plagiarized, for the most part.

I am still going to enjoy the easter egg hunt though...
Got some actual proof or are you just trying to sound smart?
 
Old 03-26-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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We are well into Holy Week, that is the week between Palm Sunday and Easter. On Sunday, Christians of the Roman tradition (Roman Catholics and most protestants) will celebrate Easter.

Usually, here on CD, about this time if not well before, some anti-Christian will point out the shocking news that most of our Easter traditions come from pagan religions and cultures. This elucidation is generally stated in a snarky manner, as if mainstream Christians had never heard this stuff before.

Mind you, when I say anti-Christians I do not mean the many people here who are simply non-Christian. I'm talking about the militants, who want to be sure all Christians know their religion is, in the mind of the anti-Christians, a farce. I have a feeling a lot of people who post such crap have just found this out themselves, and have never cracked open a Bible, where they would learn that no, there is no mention of Easter rabbits, baby chicks, colored eggs, baskets, and the like.

Without further ado, I decided to start my own thread about this. In researching this topic, I learned something new, to wit:

Easter history : holiday traditions and their origins, from the goddess Ishtar(Inanna)to the Easter Bunny.
**The Goddess Ostara and the Easter Bunny

Feeling guilty about arriving late one spring, the Goddess Ostara saved the life of a poor bird whose wings had been frozen by the snow. She made him her pet or, as some versions have it, her lover. Filled with compassion for him since he could no longer fly (in some versions, it was because she wished to amuse a group of young children), Ostara turned him into a snow hare and gave him the gift of being able to run with incredible speed so he could protect himself from hunters.

In remembrance of his earlier form as a bird, she also gave him the ability to lay eggs (in all the colors of the rainbow, no less), but only on one day out of each year.


Plus much more. That is the best explanation I have ever seen about why the Easter Bunny brings colored eggs.

Eggs are, of course, a fertility symbol. Eggs do become chickens. All tied to sex. Baskets resemble bird's nests.

There is another interesting custom in Sweden that I have to thank the University of Colorado newspaper, the Colorado Daily for.
FRITZ: Jesus, Easter and the bunny - Colorado Daily
**So instead of dreaming up all the ways I can break Lent, I've been just thinking about Easter-time traditions and wondering what the rest of the world does.

I found some pretty fascinating ones, such as the smaller, pseudo-Halloween that takes place in Sweden, where little girls dress up like witches and go door to door collecting candy while everyone else lights things on fire to drive witches away. (Those Nordic folk seriously love lighting things on fire, bless their hearts.) The bonfires are lit to scare away the witches who fly to a German mountain to chat with Satan every Easter.


Now I did some more research about this, and if my sources are correct, The witches fly to a mountain to "consort" with the devil on Maundy Thursday. An interesting blend of Christianity and, well, whatever.

Little girls with painted faces, wearing head scarves and long skirts, go from door to door with a coffee pot which they expect to get filled with small change or candy. Known as påskkärringar - Easter witches or hags - their origins are to be found in the old superstition that Maundy Thursday was the time when witches stole household brooms and flew to dance and consort with the devil at a feast hosted by him on “Blue Mountain”, a fictitious mountain, possibly in present-day Iceland. . . . All doors and windows were kept closed on Maundy Thursday and the dampers of the fireplaces were firmly shut. Thresholds and door jams were marked with the sign of the cross in tar to keep the witches at bay.

The belief in witchcraft is the basis of another Easter tradition, especially in western Sweden where firecrackers are let off on Easter night and great bonfires are lit. Firecrackers and fires were considered to be a proven method to keep witches at bay.


A number of our other Easter customs come from the Swedes as well.

Easter Traditions

I've already quoted my max, you'll have to open it and read it. Please note this is just for fun!
Although i think Jim Staley can be a bit extreme with the whole Hebrew roots movement at times, he did put together a very good presentation about the original origins of Christmas and Easter. It worth a watch and will shock you about these customs.



NEW - Jim Staley -Truth or Tradition - Should Christians Celebrate Christmas and Easter? (FULL) - YouTube
 
Old 03-26-2013, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Does this mean there will be no chocolate bunnies or eggs in heaven?

Might not want to tell the little kids that until they are older.


 
Old 03-27-2013, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Originally Posted by Heartsong View Post
I don't think putting an "ism" on something makes it a religion. Environmentalism is concern for the natural environment.

Lots of "isms" have nothing to do with faith or religion. Such as:

racism
socialism
capitalism
communism
Marxism
feminism
criticism
terrorism
Terrorism has nothing to do with religion?
 
Old 03-27-2013, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Terrorism has nothing to do with religion?
No, it has to do with attempting to force political choices. The politics involved may have something to do with the religion, but the "ism" that is about terror is not the ism that is that base religion,.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Hephzibah, GA
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Wow, what a shock! Christian holidays with pagan origins! Oh my! Why do people, who are obviously not Christians (don't they have their own board?), insist on stirring up a hornets nest about our holidays? Go elsewhere. Anyone that is a Christian and doesn't know the history of Easter needs to get educated about our history. Interestingly though, Easter isn't even celebrated at the correct time of the year, it's celebrated to closely coincide with Jewish Passover instead.

Get over it people, especially you non-Christian posters.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Hephzibah, GA
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Terrorism has nothing to do with religion?
Terrorism has nothing to do with 'religion' per se, it can also be politically driven. The fact that the American 'War on Terror' has something to do with Islamic radical carrying out acts of terrorism does not make terrorism religiously based. Terrorism is a means to an end that can have it's origins in any kind of ideology, and that includes politics and religion.
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