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Old 03-26-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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Each source will show one use of religion as regarding a superhuman power, or say it often does, but there will always be a 2. or 3. for the broader use. None support your claim that "religion requires the belief" of the superhuman power.
Every primary definition states the same thing. Alas, if you want to consider Environmentalism to be a religion, I have no objections. Just be aware that following this line of thought, just about everything is a religion.

 
Old 03-26-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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Most certainly. One can add just about anything to one's religious belief, including that one must murder infidels.

Doing so doesn't make Environmentalism any more a religion than Atheism... Both lack the defining characteristic of a superhuman controlling power, i.e, a god or god-like being.
The defining characteristic is faith. Buddhism is a religion, as is Taoism or environmentalism.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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Easy Francis. I wasn't indicating that environmentalism was a religion above or below atheism...just that it could be become a part of one's base fanaticism.
Nah, that sentence wasn't directed at you. I apologize for including it in my reply to you. I was simply following up on HiFi's assertions in the greater conversation.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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Every primary definition states the same thing. Alas, if you want to consider Environmentalism to be a religion, I have no objections. Just be aware that following this line of thought, just about everything is a religion.
I would agree that every organized belief system requiring faith and lacking skepticism is a religion.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 05:00 PM
 
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Faith seems to mean believing in something before you have a good reason to do so.

Therefore environmentalism is not a religion.

Also, this thread would probably go better in the religion and philosophy forum or Christianity forum?
All of the faithful have their reasons. believing the earth is sacred has no better a reason than believing human life is sacred.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Paganism and Christianity were merged under Constantine.
Even I learned that in Catholic school.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Paganism and Christianity were merged under Constantine.
Even I learned that in Catholic school.
Best way to destroy a competing religion is to absorb it...

Which is why Christianity is no longer what people think it is...
 
Old 03-26-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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All of the faithful have their reasons. believing the earth is sacred has no better a reason than believing human life is sacred.
I think environmentalism is more of a theme and vague personal philosophy, like, "I love the Miami Dolphins." No faith required...keeping in mind that saying, "I love the Miami Dolphins" does not require genuinely loving them.

Someone who loves the Miami Dolphins might go to many games, and talk about them constantly, and learn about them obsessively, but there are no mandated ground rules.

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Old 03-26-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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That's a "newsflash"? Boy, we're getting desperate.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 05:38 PM
 
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That's a "newsflash"? Boy, we're getting desperate.
That was my point. But this thread got moved from P&OC where people believe that kind of stuff.
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