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So, why is it that some people still think the bible is 100% fact? Most Christians think that the bible is a great historical reference, when in fact it is a terrible one.
Take Noah's flood? If the flood did happen when the bible said it did, explain Egypt? How was Egypt untouched?
There are so many things in the bible that the bible scholars still feel are accurate, but historical evidence proves otherwise.
No really! The Chinese just simply didn't notice their Empire floating away....
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Originally Posted by fractured_kidult
So, why is it that some people still think the bible is 100% fact? Most Christians think that the bible is a great historical reference, when in fact it is a terrible one.
Take Noah's flood? If the flood did happen when the bible said it did, explain Egypt? How was Egypt untouched?
There are so many things in the bible that the bible scholars still feel are accurate, but historical evidence proves otherwise.
Answer: the Egyptian government wanted to be involved in the flood, but the people rose up against it in a mass revolt and rejected the idea. Too many national treasures, including that hot chick Cleopatra*, would have been lost....
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(*Hey... I saw that docu-movie!)
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Of course, fracturedk, the true answer is both obvious and multi-faceted:
ƒ they were taught it was factual as innocent children (often by rather silly little comic books), leaving it seared into their consciousness;
ƒ They were taught that to doubt The Holy Word of (their particular) God, they would go to hell and not see Santa ever again;
ƒ they were and are actively discouraged from critical thinking, as is still relentlessly obvious today in those states that are trying to co-opt and contaminate science classes, and;
ƒ It's a lot easier, at least at first, to simply accept simplistic biblical literacy and not think about it. To doubt it [with the resultant glimpses of The Actual Truth...] often leads to philosophical heartburn and the hovering threat of social rejection. Of course, you're far better off without that kind of socially aggressive denialist friends, IMHO.
(If you do or did, often in your late teens when you may have rebelled a bit, and also might took higher post-high school education and critical thinking seriously, you become an atheist)
Of course, most now know such stories can't stand up against modern scrutiny, since we've absolutely established certain events & processes (Evolution, an ancient earth, astrophysics, etc.) that did happen, and a bunch of biblical ones, like Noah's Ark, that didn't or couldn't have.
This is a big problem to folks who have dedicated their adult lives and beliefs to what has become an obvious error (I'm speaking of a fundamentalist's literal interpretation, not one's bible-guided personal spirituality), so again, they fervently and furtively deny all those facts and evidence.
Whahh'd I Tell Yah, fk? We have a player! He asks: such as?
Such as: Noah's Ark, as the OP already mentioned. Simply put, it didn't and couldn't have happened, easily proven on so so many fronts.
Such as the famed Insta-Poofy Genesis, as written.
Such as Evolution, now proven (but as the OP points out: since literal Christians have no valid nor credible counter-arguments, it's now simply rejected with defamatory commentary with whatever nonsense the denialists can try latch on to, or with scientifically invalid comments (from Answers in Genesis, etc.) like:
"it's a global scientific conspiracy!", "all scientists lie, but only if they support Evolution, "it's only a bacteria!", "It's only a theory",() "it's only a breed, not a species!", "it's only micro-adaptation!", "Darwin was The anti-Christ!", "it's...it's...it's...."
Such as the amazing lack of any mention of dinosaurs, those ultra-hulky, massive, predatory and/or omni-herbivorous beasties, two of which would have ruined an entire village if they simply wandered around munching up the entire season's grain stores or, in the case of a herd of pre-bird velociraptors. Or a band of rebellious T-Rex teenagers traipsing through town, ating literally every sheep, goat, child and tax-collector in the town but unreported whenever it happened, which would be, well, every day until there were no more towns or occupants... or historic biblical authors. (and no, you can't co-opt the discussion between Job and God about what an ego-singed God could do if He wanted to, as anything like historical or accurate commentary about dinosaurs.)
Now, had they truly been around, either there would have been constant mention of their very imposing presence, or they would have, obviously, eaten all of early man, and there wouldn't have been a bible to ponder...).
Such as the total absence of God where He's often really needed, to demo his absolute love of all His children and their children. Never a clean, unambiguous demo of absolute healing (Like a replicated limb or eye or nervous system. Hey; some species can easily do this, so why not us ultimate In-God's-Image humans? Or contrary to the slightly higher percentage of atheist people who survive cancer, major accident trauma or serious illnesses than devout, fervently praying Christians or Muslims see. Why higher? Because atheists trust science,get started with actual treatments earlier, and don't "leave it in the hands of The Lord!")
Such as why a significantly higher number of atheist weddings remain intact compared to those blessed by God's hand and protection (remember that thinly veiled threat about "let no-one set asunder this holy matrimony.. blah blah"? Seems to not carry much weight huh).
Such as Chinese written history, complete with art work, whose scholarly educated and precise historical documentation before, during and after the same time period as the just-awakening Christian Middle East, has earned the absolute trust of educated specialist academics, since it's events do jive with modern science and geo-physical evidence.
(Now of course, biblical literalists just won't even respond to this little problem. <crickets> is all we ever get on this touchy topic, which in itself proves biblical history to be just a fantasy written by a bunch of scientifically illiterate authors, writing from passed-down oral "histories" about some things that happened hundreds of years earlier., and soaked in the spiritual, power-mongering agenda of Christianity..)
Why are Xians such stubborn, obstinate children when it comes to accepting the flaws and contradictions in their Bible? Ignoring them won't make them go away.
So, why is it that some people still think the bible is 100% fact? Most Christians think that the bible is a great historical reference, when in fact it is a terrible one.
Take Noah's flood? If the flood did happen when the bible said it did, explain Egypt? How was Egypt untouched?
There are so many things in the bible that the bible scholars still feel are accurate, but historical evidence proves otherwise.
What makes you think so? Very few Christians I know think the Bible is a great historical reference.
Why are Xians such stubborn, obstinate children when it comes to accepting the flaws and contradictions in their Bible? Ignoring them won't make them go away.
(Now to be fair and generous atheists, QH, we;d have to agree that not all Christians are obstinate, only the devout IDTr fundies, many of whom come here to rebel against atheists. I find a large number of very pleasant and sociable Christians at my wife's Presb. church who attend services exactly for the social interaction, and in order to have a "group-hug" type of social acceptance. They don't really want to get into the depths and details of biblical literacy, probably because they know, down deep, that Noah's Ark, for instance, never could have happened, but still they value the innocent metaphor as it was meant to be.)
So, why is it that some people still think the bible is 100% fact? Most Christians think that the bible is a great historical reference, when in fact it is a terrible one.
Take Noah's flood? If the flood did happen when the bible said it did, explain Egypt? How was Egypt untouched?
There are so many things in the bible that the bible scholars still feel are accurate, but historical evidence proves otherwise.
Hm. Well, the desert in Egypt was once the bottom of a sea....
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No really! The Chinese just simply didn't notice their Empire floating away....
"Tell 'em what they've won, Johhny!"
) "it's only a breed, not a species!", "it's only micro-adaptation!", "Darwin was The anti-Christ!", "it's...it's...it's...." 
