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Old 03-11-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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Did you know there is not one verse in all the Bible where it is said God wants to save you from hell? Not even one.

There is not even one verse in the Bible that says "If you don't believe in Jesus you will go to hell."

The Bible does tell us God is saving us from being sinning, dying beings.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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Sorry, but you are clearly wrong:


The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

2 Peter 3:9


This explains why God is allowing evil to go on and holding back his judgement.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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Dear Blasted, where in that verse does it say God is saving anyone from hell?
Where does it say in that verse that, if they don't believe in Jesus, they will go to hell?
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:41 PM
 
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Dear Blasted, where in that verse does it say God is saving anyone from hell?
Where does it say in that verse that, if they don't believe in Jesus, they will go to hell?
It says God does not wish for anyone to perish. It's not His desire to send people to hell.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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Dear blasted, "perish" does not mean "hell" or that "someone went to hell."

When Jesus came the first time to Israel He said: "Mat 15:24 "Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

I bolded the word "lost" above. Did you know the Greek word apollumi is translated "perish" and "lost" and "destroyed"? Were those sheep Jesus was saving in hell? Hardly.

No, Blasted, there is not one verse in all the Bible that says God sent His Son to save us from Hell. Nor one verse which says If you don't believe in Jesus you will go to hell.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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If Jesus was a Jew, he would never have said the word "hell," as that is a patently un-Jewish concept. Jews didn't then, and still don't today believe in hell. That's a Hellinistic concept that is nowhere to be found in the Jewish bible.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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It says God does not wish for anyone to perish. It's not His desire to send people to hell.
If this, as you say, a fact then why did this god create such a place as hell? After all, according to the religious he created everything, and for a purpose. Why have such as place and intend it to remain empty?
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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12 “His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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12 “His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
My wife thinks that passage is saying that the bad in us will be destroyed and only the good will remain.
And we will all be with god.

She's not buddhist , I think she is more a spiritualist that believes in a god.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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Deny as you wish, but hell is a real place. It is in the spirit realm and there are more than 100 references in the Bible to it.
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