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Old 05-01-2024, 07:14 AM
 
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Well done!

Agree. It did run better. 100% better
I can testify to that as a born ,raised,worked,retired New Yorker.

I worked in the buttholes of this city that no one would dare to walk during the darkest of hours.
I worked in areas of high crime to watch them disappear under "Broken Windows Policy "

As you mentioned Homeless and Druggies were removed.
In addition,

Hookers Dealers,and mobsters were also extinguished.

N.Y.C. ran it's best during the Administration years under Rudolph Giuliani (2) and Mike Bloomberg (3)
accounting for a total of 20 years.

20 years under an administration that solved the problem.
Not the one in office now that prefers to have criminals pitch
their tents elsewhere rather than putting them behind bars where they belong.

The exodus of half a million people , myself included,
as the only response to this simple but somehow complicated
riddle our current Mayor can not seem to solve.
Haha. You really think those two are talented in running cities? Crime is a by-product of capitalism, you will never escape crime and social issues unless you go off the grid. All Giuliani and Bloomberg did was usher in legal migrants from other parts of America to work for cheap.
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Old 05-01-2024, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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But they've always been that way. That's not "becoming" dangerous. That's same old same old. Homeless people hang out on transit hubs. Airports, too, but fewer of them there.

Here's a NYC story from 40+ years ago when I worked at the PABT. They were putting the north wing on, and some of the work was done at night when there were limited bus operations. It was the night before Thanksgiving.

Two of the engineers working overnight took the stairs from one floor to another and found one of the homeless regulars dead in the stairwell.

They went to the PAPD command in the terminal and reported the dead guy. The cop starts complaining that now he has to do paperwork that might keep him.there beyond the end of his shift, blah blah blah. But OK, thanks for letting me know.

Dennis and Rich continue on with monitoring the night contractor, and a few hours later, they cross 9th Avenue to a deli to get coffee. And there on the sidewalk, is the same dead guy--now in NYPD's jurisdiction.

Before they left that morning, the dead guy was back in the PABT, apparently ready to be written up in the next shift, and the night cops of both NYPD and PAPD were home for Thanksgiving.
Not exactly true. Under Guilliani and especially Bloomberg, NYC was much much safer. Violent assaults and murder was rare in tourist areas. Why? Because PD had less restrictions, stop and frisk resulted in folks who had guns on them sent to jail and KEPT in jail, and of course there was no BS bail reform back then either. As soon as bail reform started, crime in NYC went up significantly and DID indeed become more dangerous. I notice it first hand, so no one can tell me different. Any veteran cop will tell you the same thing.
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Old 05-01-2024, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Not exactly true. Under Guilliani and especially Bloomberg, NYC was much much safer. Violent assaults and murder was rare in tourist areas. Why? Because PD had less restrictions, stop and frisk resulted in folks who had guns on them sent to jail and KEPT in jail, and of course there was no BS bail reform back then either. As soon as bail reform started, crime in NYC went up significantly and DID indeed become more dangerous. I notice it first hand, so no one can tell me different. Any veteran cop will tell you the same thing.
My story predates Bloomberg or Giuliani. I am old.
But my point was that transit hubs and terminals always have been gathering places for the homeless and the druggies. Every day, tens of thousands of people with jobs and money move through them, and if you are one of the people on the edge of society that survives by begging or taking from others, you go to an area where there is a concentration of possibilities to do that. Transit facilities are exactly that.
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Old 05-01-2024, 06:23 PM
 
Location: NY
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Haha. You really think those two are talented in running cities? Crime is a by-product of capitalism, you will never escape crime and social issues unless you go off the grid. All Giuliani and Bloomberg did was usher in legal migrants from other parts of America to work for cheap.
I can only give a glowing approval to Rudy handling crime and Mike creating business.
Other members under their tenures deserve the rest of the credit.
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Old 05-02-2024, 05:11 AM
 
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I can only give a glowing approval to Rudy handling crime and Mike creating business.
Other members under their tenures deserve the rest of the credit.
You give people too much credit
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Old 05-02-2024, 07:07 AM
 
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You preferred NY in the 70s and 80s to the later years? Okay... How old were you then?
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:17 AM
 
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You preferred NY in the 70s and 80s to the later years? Okay... How old were you then?
Yes. I know it’s hard to believe but some prefer a more crime ridden NYC.
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:28 AM
 
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Yes. I know it’s hard to believe but some prefer a more crime ridden NYC.
Some people are just contrarians.
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Old 05-03-2024, 04:19 AM
 
Location: NY
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Some people are just contrarians.
Hahahaha........too funny.
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Old 05-04-2024, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Putnam County, NY
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Given the earthquake of Covid and the litany of criminal justice softenings between 2014 and 2020, I am pleasantly surprised that NYC is doing as well as it is.
But, many of the concerns raised in this thread need to be addressed.
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