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Old 01-21-2024, 06:58 AM
 
Location: NY
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There is no such thing as born high achievers. It's just how much it is enforced ideally at the family level and potentially at the societal level.
I agree that will work but there are limits to achievements.

Currently............Taking an equal number of people per race one would find

13% of Asians perform at Levels 350 points or higher as compared to
6% of Whites,1% Blacks and Hispanics.


Down side?
The High rate among Asians are limited to achievemnets. Duly noted.
I do not believe it equates to other fields such as laborious intensive duties
that require elements of both mental fortitude and physical durational strength.


I have worked in a multifaceted field.
My observations were as follows:
Asians and Jewish at the Engineering positions. High Brain Function.
Europeans at Supervisory. High Brain and Physical Function.
A peppering of all Races from Foreman to Apprentice levels.

Mind you, there were exceptions for the higher platform
I have encountered over my 40 years.
I wish it were more than the exception.

Will this change over the next thousand years?
I believe if the conditions are right. Yes.
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Old 01-21-2024, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Yeah well that's news to me..

All over SI, parts of Brooklyn and Queens Asians are snapping up every home they can get in areas with good schools.

On SI joke around dinner tables is two groups always show up at any home for sale with bags of money offering to do a deal "right now"; Jewish of Eastern European background and Asians (mostly Chinese).

Asians home buyers largely ignore north of SIE except for certain select areas; instead they are concentrating on those south or just of the expressway. Now why do you think that is?

Many Chinese-Americans are buying homes in New Dorp and the entire East Shore. Nice middle-class people. Staten Island Tech is a big draw for them.
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:34 AM
 
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Many Chinese-Americans are buying homes in New Dorp and the entire East Shore. Nice middle-class people. Staten Island Tech is a big draw for them.
As I said....

https://www.silive.com/education/202...this-year.html

https://www.silive.com/news/2018/05/post_2157.html

https://3.files.edl.io/46a0/20/02/11...7c01498769.jpg

https://www.siths.org/apps/video/watch.jsp?v=229335
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:37 AM
 
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Many Chinese-Americans are buying homes in New Dorp and the entire East Shore. Nice middle-class people. Staten Island Tech is a big draw for them.
Long as these Asians are willing meet people's number that's all that matters nowadays.

People are bailing off SI left and right, and aren't too particular anymore about the "old neighborhood".
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:50 AM
 
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Oh this is so going to be good...


"The federal lawsuit filed on Wednesday takes aim at the state-funded Science and Technology Program, or STEP, which was enacted in 1985 and offers thousands of eligible seventh-to-12th graders extra lab research opportunities, tutoring and college admissions help."

"Participants must be Black, Hispanic or Latino, or Native American — or have a family income below the program’s threshold, which is currently set at $33,874 for a family with two children."

https://gothamist.com/news/asian-par...s-stem-program.
NY's state and urban education bureaucracies have done a terrible disservice to the children. These agencies should be wiped clean and reimagined as merit-based advisory councils with the express mission of making New York students the best educated in the country... in the world, in fact.

Why not? Once upon a time, NY boasted some of the nation's best schools. When my mother was growing up in Brooklyn, there were world class schools (along with some awful ones, admittedly), and the free CUNY system was superb.

No longer. What family in their right mind would relocate to NYC for the schools? Westchester, maybe, but from what I've heard, they've tanked their once-great schools as well, all in the cause of DEI and similar garbage.

As for this lawsuit, I hope and believe it is valid and the Asian group should prevail. It's outrageous to admit or ban people according to their race.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
-Martin Luther King Jr
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Old 01-21-2024, 09:10 AM
 
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NY's state and urban education bureaucracies have done a terrible disservice to the children. These agencies should be wiped clean and reimagined as merit-based advisory councils with the express mission of making New York students the best educated in the country... in the world, in fact.

Why not? Once upon a time, NY boasted some of the nation's best schools. When my mother was growing up in Brooklyn, there were world class schools (along with some awful ones, admittedly), and the free CUNY system was superb.

No longer. What family in their right mind would relocate to NYC for the schools? Westchester, maybe, but from what I've heard, they've tanked their once-great schools as well, all in the cause of DEI and similar garbage.

As for this lawsuit, I hope and believe it is valid and the Asian group should prevail. It's outrageous to admit or ban people according to their race.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
-Martin Luther King Jr
The intersection of politics and public assistance.

My wife is a DOE teacher. The NYC school system has become nothing more than another public assistance program (free food, free after-school (baby sitting), free medical care, etc).

It creates a negative cycle whereby those parents who already skew towards being lazy and negligent are encouraged to be even more lazy and negligent because the school system takes care of their children. An essential part of being a responsible parent is sacrificing (time, money, and effort ) for your children.
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Old 01-21-2024, 09:39 AM
 
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Many Chinese-Americans are buying homes in New Dorp and the entire East Shore. Nice middle-class people. Staten Island Tech is a big draw for them.
The real reason is simply the neighborhoods that they actually want to live in in Queens or Brooklyn have gotten too expensive.
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Old 01-21-2024, 10:18 AM
 
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The real reason is simply the neighborhoods that they actually want to live in in Queens or Brooklyn have gotten too expensive.
Not entirely true. They're taking virtually the same money and just getting more bang for their buck. The calculus for NYC has changed post COVID. It's the same calculus my wife and I are now running into it. We wanted to buy a house in Brooklyn for around $850K - $900K but have decided that would be a terrible choice given where the city is and is headed. We'll just take the same money and buy in LI. It's not because we're looking for cheaper housing. Essentially, we'll buy "the worst house in the best town" in LI which we can afford.
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Old 01-21-2024, 11:12 AM
 
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I'm not sure what year you're referring to with your price range of 850k - 900k, but you cannot buy a single family home these days in the Asian parts of Brooklyn or Queens for that price range unless it's total crap. There's literally nothing for even a million in Bensonhurst if you check on Zillow.

I don't disagree that there is more value in buying on S.I because a 750k home is newer, bigger, and the neighborhood is a lot safer. On top of that you're kind of tucked away from the degeneracy. I myself bought a home in Brooklyn during the pandemic and I can't say I'm totally happy with my purchase as I'm looking to get away from Brooklyn myself lol.
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Old 01-21-2024, 02:41 PM
 
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I'm not sure what year you're referring to with your price range of 850k - 900k, but you cannot buy a single family home these days in the Asian parts of Brooklyn or Queens for that price range unless it's total crap. There's literally nothing for even a million in Bensonhurst if you check on Zillow.

I don't disagree that there is more value in buying on S.I because a 750k home is newer, bigger, and the neighborhood is a lot safer. On top of that you're kind of tucked away from the degeneracy. I myself bought a home in Brooklyn during the pandemic and I can't say I'm totally happy with my purchase as I'm looking to get away from Brooklyn myself lol.
There were plenty of under $1MM condos built in Bensonhurst (and other Chinese heavy areas) and it wasn’t for Hispanics. Multi-family homes go for over $1MM but there’s usually multiple generations buying the home.

Of course some is due to a lack of supply/ high prices but post COVID many Chinese are moving to SI, LI, and NJ due to the political environment which has impacted what they care about most, safety and education.
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