Former marine subdues menacing man on train (New York, Adams: to buy, homeless)
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If the Marine took him down and the guy died in a minute or two you could make a case that it was an accidental death. But he put him in a chokehold for 15 minutes so there was plenty of time for the Marine to think about what he was doing. He could have pinned the guy down by sitting on him or securing his arms around his back. Supposedly the Marine knew martial arts so he must have known what he was doing could kill the guy. Even if he wasn’t that skilled in martial arts I would assume he know what he was doing from his combat training.
Also have to wonder if the Marine was from NYC. If he wasn’t from here he might have overreacted to the threat the guy was presenting. Most New Yorkers wouldn’t think their lives were in danger by seeing a guy yelling on the subway. Ride the subway around the time school lets out and it can be a far scarier situation to see 20 kids out of control than a single mentally ill man yelling he has no money.
You see, the Gov't trained this man to kill, they never trained him not to kill.
I’ve been very impressed with Adams lately. Over the last two weeks I attended 2 events he spoke at. Both speeches were impressively delivered without notes or teleprompter. Both messages were dead on. He wasn’t afraid to not only acknowledge, but PRAISE Pat Lynch, an awesome and fearless defender of cops in anti-blue NYC. And now this reasonable approach, highly uncommon for brainless NYC politicians:
Whatever happens here will be pivotal. If no charges are filed or charges are filed and the marine gets off, that will embolden more of this and might deter a segment of the population from acting out aggressively in public. I know that many are too far gone cognitively, but some are not and it might register.
I have a wife that takes the subway twice a week. I hope that the car is full of more marines than Neely's. It's a god damn shame that his life ended up where it did. It might not have been all his fault, related to drugs and the like. However, whatever upbringing and socioeconomic issues he faced through his life, you still can't get away with being a physical threat to the public. As a society, we can work on fixing short and long term issues at the same time. That said, this violence and intimidation by a small portion of the population has to be quelled regardless of the long term measures to prevent people from ending up in that position. When someone is rushed into the ER with a gunshot wound and cancer, you gotta treat the gunshot first.
I’ve been very impressed with Adams lately. Over the last two weeks I attended 2 events he spoke at. Both speeches were impressively delivered without notes or teleprompter. Both messages were dead on. He wasn’t afraid to not only acknowledge, but PRAISE Pat Lynch, an awesome and fearless defender of cops in anti-blue NYC. And now this reasonable approach, highly uncommon for brainless NYC politicians:
Adams isn’t a far leftie but don’t let him fool you. The guy doesn’t have a creative idea in his body to fix any real problem. He’s a bureaucrat and not a terribly good one at that. This city is still as shi**ily run as ever. This same clown told NYCers to put AirTags in their cars due to the rise in car thefts.
Whether this particular incident is ruled a murder, manslaughter, or self defense makes no difference in the scheme of things. The homeless bum was obviously a retard but so was the dude that had him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. Now, because of 2 retards, we have to endure the clown show to come. It’s an emotional issue but has no bearing on how this city is run. What distinguishes a well run city from a poorly run one are the mundane things.
They are saying that the Marine was dishonorably discharged and a white supremacist with ulterior motives. Anybody have an idea on whether this is just more woke propaganda?
Perhaps white supremacists wouldn't have a leg to stand on if clear threats were neutralized. I am tired of the freedom and liberty slippery slope theater that has led to the deaths of innocent children. If there were any women or children on that train he should have been put down and incapacitated.
I am a Black man that is tired of being caught in the middle of emotional anarchist socialists and racist MAGA extremists. The undesirables in society who look like me are used to pigeonhole me into a corner politically and consequently, socioeconomically. We are going to have to learn as a society how to stop conflating individual racism with structural racism and structural disenfranchisement. These are 3 things which may overlap but they are not the same. The Republicans need to come to the center and expunge racist elements in their party or Woke Democrats will run this city and country into the ground. We are going to become Baltimore and Chicago soon. Not good.
This individual who was killed should NOT have had the freedom to wander the subway aimlessly given his background. We put ankle monitors on juvenile delinquents but none on this guy? Ban these individuals from the subway or keep them institutionalized. That way the lines don't get blurred.
There is a concern that racist vigilantes use this as an excuse or justification to try and revive the old Ku Klux Klan and take out regular hard working Black people. We can address this by locking up proven psychotics with lengthy rap sheets. Then you can go ahead and ban vigilante behavior. Fire Alvin Bragg and bring in a sensible pragmatic DA that locks up career criminals and not random Black kids coming home from school.
As a pro L&O individual, I don’t view this as a black-white matter. Even if the skin color reverses in this incident, most of us normal folks will clap for the hero and the riddance of dysfunctional life criminals. Sadly many people and politicians purposefully use such incidents to wake up and sensitize racial tensions while trying to rid off the fundamental values any civilized society should maintain to better the life for every hard working citizen. Punish the criminals and support those who stand up against criminals!!
Whatever happens here will be pivotal. If no charges are filed or charges are filed and the marine gets off, that will embolden more of this and might deter a segment of the population from acting out aggressively in public. I know that many are too far gone cognitively, but some are not and it might register.
I have a wife that takes the subway twice a week. I hope that the car is full of more marines than Neely's. It's a god damn shame that his life ended up where it did. It might not have been all his fault, related to drugs and the like. However, whatever upbringing and socioeconomic issues he faced through his life, you still can't get away with being a physical threat to the public. As a society, we can work on fixing short and long term issues at the same time. That said, this violence and intimidation by a small portion of the population has to be quelled regardless of the long term measures to prevent people from ending up in that position. When someone is rushed into the ER with a gunshot wound and cancer, you gotta treat the gunshot first.
This isn’t good for the city and won’t change anything. In fact, it might make things even worse. We’ll be subjected to months (maybe even years) or nonsense due to this. Real issues won’t get solved or worked on (not that they get worked on anyway frankly).
I’ve been very impressed with Adams lately. Over the last two weeks I attended 2 events he spoke at. Both speeches were impressively delivered without notes or teleprompter. Both messages were dead on. He wasn’t afraid to not only acknowledge, but PRAISE Pat Lynch, an awesome and fearless defender of cops in anti-blue NYC. And now this reasonable approach, highly uncommon for brainless NYC politicians:
Happy to be wrong about Adams but I am not hopeful about his values and leadership abilities. He is a corrupt and wannabe showman.
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