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Old 10-12-2016, 07:46 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You do realize that there are only two city blocks between the 8th Avenue and Broadway subway lines on UWS.
and 4 lines on the same road too (A B C D)
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I agree the 4-5-6 can't handle the current ridership.
that's why they developed all those reserved bus lanes on Fifth & Madison aves
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I'm glad it's being done and I find the people who kvetch about how it only having three totally new stations or being too close to an existing line or only beneficial to residents if the Upper East Side to be incredibly short-sighted or just plain dumb.

I also think it's silly to not have worked out a deal to continue construction on phase 2 as parts of phase 1 were wrapping up as that would have been an incredible time and cost saving measure.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I'm glad it's being done and I find the people who kvetch about how it only having three totally new stations or being too close to an existing line or only beneficial to residents if the Upper East Side to be incredibly short-sighted or just plain dumb.

I also think it's silly to not have worked out a deal to continue construction on phase 2 as parts of phase 1 were wrapping up as that would have been an incredible time and cost saving measure.
It's dumb not to think it's an improvement, but it's dumber how epicly long and expensive this whole process has been for only 3 lousy stops
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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Toon many and too large NYCHA projects on that stretch for gentrification to happen in a meaningful way.

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East Harlem gentrifies once construction for the northern end of the SAS begins.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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My only opinion is that it's a colossal waste of money to build a subway two blocks away from an existing line.
Let's see. We have in midtown the 8th Avenue Subway, 7 th Avenue Subway, the Broadway Line, the 6th Avenue line ALL generally one BLOCK from each other.

42nd Street has two lines, the shuttle and the 7 train and that is the same STREET.

Massive numbers of people take the subway in NYC, and the East Side has only one line currently, the Lexington. It originally had the 3rd and 2nd Avenue Els (one and two blocks away from the Lex). The Second Avenue replaces those els.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:01 PM
 
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It's dumb not to think it's an improvement, but it's dumber how epicly long and expensive this whole process has been for only 3 lousy stops
It's 4 stops, as the Q train will also stop at 63rd and Lexington.

Phase 2 will at least use the existing tunnels built in East Harlem in the 70s. Phase 2 just got funding this year, who knows when phases 3-4 will get funding but I expect the MTA to lobby President Hillary for money for all remaining phases next year as she has said she will spend a lot on infrastructure.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Toon many and too large NYCHA projects on that stretch for gentrification to happen in a meaningful way.
You even have the South Bronx gentrifying. Really there's nowhere else for people to go, and empty spaces on the NYCHA projects are being developed.

Of course some of those projects have been sold.
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Old 10-13-2016, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Toon many and too large NYCHA projects on that stretch for gentrification to happen in a meaningful way.
Couldn't you have said the same about the Lower East Side / East Village?
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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the thing about the second avenue subway is that it doesn't connect to anything useful (like the west side trains connect to port authority/penn station/path) and it doesn't go into the other boroughs. i think it will be solely used for commuters going up and down, which isn't a bad thing, but i don't see much ridership outside of rush hour.
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