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Old 06-30-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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Won't this cause a chain reaction ?


The workers now getting $16 or $17 an hour aren't going to be happy about getting only a dollar or two above minimum wage.
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Old 06-30-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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Great news. I have the opposite opinion of the OP. Thumbs down? More like thumbs up!
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Can you say what is good about this?
Maybe it is, and I am missing something.
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What isn't good about it? The minimum wage should already be at 15 dollars nationwide. The US is far behind the times. So that Minneapolis just passed this at a time when only much bigger/more expensive cities are doing it is a very good sign and could be positive for things to come in other cities. I don't agree with the tipping culture in America, but even if you disagree that minimum wage shouldn't be 15 bucks, there's no way you can say that what's it at now is fair. Minimum wage never rose for inflation and never accounted for cost of living increases over the past few decades. Prices will go up sure, and there's no denying that small businesses will be affected, but there is not going to be less jobs. And unlike what the opposers to a higher minimum wage would lead you to believe, I don't think it's going to make a drastic difference.

It's a good thing.
I hope you are right.

But, at this point I believe it is not a good thing.

Yes, prices of things will go up. And it will be that people are making $15 an hour and goods will go up to match that. It's a washout.

And like another poster said, good luck to the young kids entering the workforce.
Won't be much there.

I still hope you are right, though.
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Old 06-30-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Won't this cause a chain reaction ?


The workers now getting $16 or $17 an hour aren't going to be happy about getting only a dollar or two above minimum wage.
Good point. More than likely so.

There are health care workers, Medical Assistants, Group Home workers who make less than $15 or just over. These jobs hold more of a responsibility than a burger flipper or a Menards cashier.
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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I wonder when these people who file their taxes and then realize they are in a higher tax bracket will stop support $15 wage.
They might not get there earned income credit.
They are going to have to work harder and get the same or less in the long run.
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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This is a political talking point and only a Band-Aid for the problem of low wage workers trying to support themselves and their families. Many will be in worse situations because they will make too much to qualify for assistance and paying more in taxes.


We need to be looking at why people are dependent on minimum wage jobs well into their 30s and 40s to support families, rather than arbitrarily raising the wage because other cities did it.
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
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Here come the robots! Make sure you smile as they roll by. These are your new bosses that can read body language and facial expressions.
Robots also make great employees. They show up on time, don't get sick, don't swear or have personal issues nor do they threaten racial discrimination lawsuits or go hunt for potential workers comp lawsuits.
Enjoy!

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Old 06-30-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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This is a political talking point and only a Band-Aid for the problem of low wage workers trying to support themselves and their families. Many will be in worse situations because they will make too much to qualify for assistance and paying more in taxes.


We need to be looking at why people are dependent on minimum wage jobs well into their 30s and 40s to support families, rather than arbitrarily raising the wage because other cities did it.
Yes indeed
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Looks like dirt behind tbe push
So if you are of person of color you are worth $15 an hour?!
What about all the people whatever color you are including white has worked there ass off to move up in a job. And also have student loan debt to move up in a job.
This really irks me



City's study confirms $15 minimum wage targets racial and economic inequalities - Neighborhoods Organizing for Change

They said they are targeting St. Paul and the U of M next




It's official, Minneapolis is getting a $15 minimum wage - GoMN

Mayor Betsy Hodges said the change would benefit 71,000 workers living near or below the poverty line, many of them minority workers in a city where there is a huge racial disparity when it comes to household income.
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Old 06-30-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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The minimum wage historically is a tool designed to keep minorities & low income workers out of the workforce.

- In British Columbia it was implemented because White loggers were upset that Chinese immigrants were willing to work for close to nothing & they were losing their jobs to them. They pressured their elected officials, who passed the minimum wage law, making the wage of the White workers the new minimum wage. Did the Chinese workers all get pay raises? No, they were all fired & only the White workers were kept.

- In Australia the Chinese were taking White, union, railroad jobs. The union pressured their elected officials who passed the minimum wage, making the union wage the minimum wage. Did the Chinese workers get raises? No, they all got laid off & the White union workers kept their jobs.

- In Apartheid South Africa, the Boers passed the minimum wage to ensure Black Africans, willing to work for less than the White union, factory workers, would be frozen out of the workforce.

- In the USA, enterprising contractors headed South & hired crews of poor Blacks to head North to do construction in New York & Pennsylvania. The White, union construction workers had the minimum wage enacted in the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931 to keep the Blacks away from their jobs.

If we raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, all it does it ensure low skilled workers (mostly minorities & teenagers) will be laid off, or never hired to begin with. You can make the minimum wage $20, or $25 per hour & most of us will still be employed. It will only be the most vulnerable workers that suffer.
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Old 06-30-2017, 06:22 PM
 
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simple, if stupid people are against something than I'm for it
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