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Old 02-08-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Altoona, PA
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Now that, I cannot answer. I do wonder the same thing myself, sometimes. I know some people who are working hard to leave and I know some people who are happy just to sit around and complain about it all. It's the latter I do not understand.

Edit: Glasvegas, good point about some being afraid of change. It IS hard for me to understand this since I've moved around my entire life, (military brat), and I'm not afraid one bit of change...but I do try to understand that some people have never done this and it IS a big deal to pick up and leave everything you know, behind. Still, I would think that if you truly were that unhappy, you could find a way.
Good points

Also, people need to fathom the difference between complaining and being critical and engaging in a discussion.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The Queen City
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Need to comment on this. Miami is the 2nd busiest airport in terms of international passengers in the U.S. It is first in international cargo in the US. Your passenger number is COMPLETELY OFF. MIA has over 30m passengers in 2009. And being 4th in U.S. cargo airports is VERY impressive since Louisville and Memphis are mega hubs for UPS and Fed Ex. Anchorage is a huge fuel stop and also a big hub for Fed Ex and UPS. Lets also not forget Miami is a two airport city with FLL. Miami is an aviation mecca of the US one of the biggest aviation towns in the country and the world.

Anyway about Miami itself. It has been making these stupid list for years now. Great they get some stats and make a list. Since when did we ever take forbes list seriously? When FP or Time Magazine or the Wall Street Journal comes out with a list and puts Miami on the worst cities then I will start paying attention. Miami has its problems as any city does. What are Miami's largest problems besides for real estate (that is a problem almost everywhere).
Education: It is bad and hopefully something that can change however DC has a bad education problem so does LA.
Fraud Corruption: This needs to stop. We has people need to stop electing idiots to office. I do my best its time the rest do.
Public Transit: Miami is a young city people always seem to forget this. It takes time for a city to look like DC, San Fran or NYC. Miami is a good 100 years younger then all these cities! But the county, state and federal government need to fund more transportation projects. But hey look at Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, LA, PHX all have transportation problems too!!
Immigration has been a problem too this is more of a federal government problem and also a problem with the attitude of the immigrants that find themselves in Miami. I cant stand the ones that feel that they should not learn english and think everyone should speak spanish.

Traffic is a problem in EVERY CITY CRIME IS A PROBLEM IN EVERY CITY Besides for the things I listed which are big problems Miami has the same problems many cities around the US have. Miami has always been looked down upon by many and will continue to be looked down upon. Miami has a bad rep with people and a good rep with people it all depends on who you ask. But the LAST thing that really matter is a forbes magazine list.

My numbers are not "way off". As I stated, those are all passanger numbers, not just International. When it comes to international travelers, yes, MIA is second. Sad that not too long ago it was on the national news that MIA is number one in cargo theft....always number one in negativity.. you go boy
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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"Since when did we ever take forbes list seriously?"

we better. since companies determine where to place their businesses based on news like this. if they keep seeing us winning awards for bad things they're going to look elsewhere.

companies also look at corporate tax rates too...
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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"Since when did we ever take forbes list seriously?"

we better. since companies determine where to place their businesses based on news like this. if they keep seeing us winning awards for bad things they're going to look elsewhere.
Companies that use forbes magazine list for something like that wont last long. There are plenty of companies in Miami and seem to be happy there. Miami has a geographic advantage for international business.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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miamilife: and educated and skilled workforces.

Carnival unit moving to Seattle from Miami | Puget Sound Business Journal
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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100% agreed about the workforce. South, FL sorely lacking in a skilled worked force.....WTR to Seattle, good luck. Traffic there is terrible and the weather is god awful. Amazing city if wasn't raining nearly every day. I've been there for business many, many times. San Francisco is much nicer. When I was in Seattle, they had to shut down several streets because of a "jumper". Highest suicide rate in the country. Could you imagine telling your wife that you're moving the family there? Load up on the Prozac.
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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Companies that use forbes magazine list for something like that wont last long. There are plenty of companies in Miami and seem to be happy there. Miami has a geographic advantage for international business.
Particular banking and adverstising in south America. Miami has suffered largely from poor (corrupt) goverance. Locationally, the city has great potential.
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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miamilife: yeah ive been there for business as well. of course i was really lucky to be there during one of their warmest clearest summers in a long time. it's a shame it isnt always that way. yes san fran is much nicer. i love the culture in seattle especially the bohemian-ness to it but after a month of drizzle i'd run a warm bath and open a vein.
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:04 PM
 
Location: The Queen City
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Companies that use forbes magazine list for something like that wont last long. There are plenty of companies in Miami and seem to be happy there. Miami has a geographic advantage for international business.
The only 2 Fortune 500 companies headquartered in Miami are:

World Fuel Services and Ryder System.....not that many....even JAX (CSX, Winn Dixie and Fidelity National Financial) and Tampa have more....
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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Did you read the article? The reason it is moving is so it can work more efficiently and closely with Holland America. Workers from Miami are going to move there. It does not have to do with Miami itself. It is did then they would just move the whole company HQ there no?




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The only 2 Fortune 500 companies headquartered in Miami are:

World Fuel Services and Ryder System.....not that many....even JAX (CSX, Winn Dixie and Fidelity National Financial) and Tampa have more....
How about all the huge companies that have international and latin american hq's in Miami like Sony, Microsoft, American Airlines, Fed Ex etc..
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