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Old 12-30-2023, 06:11 PM
 
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"A supplier of cellphones, laptops, mobile hot spots and other telecommunications equipment for customers such as Verizon wants to move its manufacturing from China to Long Island, creating 1,000 factory jobs over the next five years, a top executive told Newsday.

Orbic Electronics Manufacturing LLC is pursuing a multimillion-dollar “Made in America” strategy at the behest of its customers who want their supplies to be made domestically in order to avoid a repeat of the shipping backlogs that occurred during the COVID-19 pandemic with imported goods. The customers also hope to stand out from their rivals with American consumers, said Mike Narula, CEO of Hauppauge-based Orbic.

“China has dominated [the telecommunications industry] when it comes to manufacturing and supply chain … We decided to go down a different path in building the Orbic brand and to set ourselves apart from the competition by having ‘Made in USA’ on our products,” he said in an interview. “Also, our top customers, like Verizon, are asking us to do this.”

While production activity will move to Long Island, Narula said Orbic will continue to rely on engineers in India for research and development work.

The company has annual revenue of about $100 million, according to its application for tax breaks from the Suffolk County Industrial Development Agency. Narula said the best-selling products are mobile hotspots used in school buses and elsewhere by students doing their homework, cellphones for senior citizens and Chromebook computers for students.

In Hauppauge, Orbic plans to convert 60,000 square feet of space at 555 Wireless Blvd. into its first factory. The eight-year-old company now uses the rented 70,000-square-foot building for warehousing and offices.

Narula said retrofitting the space for production will begin early next year and cost $30.8 million. He said he hopes to start turning out 5 million phones, hot spots, Chromebooks and other electronic devices per year, starting in October. All will bear the Orbic name.

The expansion project won preliminary approval this month for $2 million in tax breaks over 20 years from the IDA. Much of the savings — $1.1 million — will come from a sales-tax exemption on the purchase of construction materials and equipment, according to the agency.

In return, Orbic has pledged to add more than 500 people to its payroll of 73 in the next two years. The new jobs will pay, on average, $46,250 per year, according to the company’s IDA application.

Without the tax breaks, the expansion "will not be feasible and we would either seek an alternative location in a different state or maintain our current manufacturing and assembly operations" in China, Orbic officials wrote in the application.

Besides the Wireless Boulevard building, Narula told Newsday that Orbic eventually will have factories at 120 Commerce Dr. and 155 Adams Ave., both in Hauppauge, and at 1560 5th Ave. in Bay Shore.

He said Orbic is seeking help from Empire State Development, the state’s primary business-aid agency, and its Job Development Authority. The company is also exploring ways to reduce its electricity bills.

"We are in touch with the company and look forward to a continued discussion regarding their plans on Long Island," ESD spokeswoman Emily Mijatovic said on Wednesday.

Orbic, which is owned by Narula's wife, Ashima, an architect, is joining more than 5,000 companies that have shifted production from overseas to the United States. Together, the businesses have created 1.7 million jobs as of Jan. 31, 2023. Nearly 500 of the firms have operations in New York State, according to the Reshoring Initiative, a Sarasota, Florida-based advocacy group.

In March, Bedgear LLC, a Farmingdale-based maker of mattresses, pillows and sheets, announced plans to move more of its production from Asia to a company-owned factory in Rock Hill, South Carolina.

At Orbic, Mike Narula said, “Our goal is not only to elevate the awareness of the Orbic brand but to deliver value to the American consumer through products that are made in this country.” He added the company plans to pursue contracts to supply computers and other devices to public schools in New York City and elsewhere.

Orbic is among more than 2,000 manufacturers that call Suffolk home, said Kelly Murphy, acting executive director of the IDA. “We are excited for what the future holds and we are proud to support this project.”

IDA board member Joshua Slaughter, an official in the Mason Tenders union, agreed, adding, "It's great to see jobs coming here from overseas because for decades [the trend] has been in the opposite direction."

Source: https://www.newsday.com/business/orb...uring-iuwvx92v
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Old 12-30-2023, 06:16 PM
 
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2 million in tax breaks for jobs averaging 46k ?!?! That’s pathetic. Chick fil a fast food workers almost make that .

Ny let nyc run Amazon out who pledged 25k jobs with an average of 150k in salary.
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Old 12-30-2023, 06:19 PM
 
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2 million in tax breaks for jobs averaging 46k ?!?! That’s pathetic.

Ny let nyc run Amazon out who pledged 25k jobs with an average of 150k in salary.
One isn't related to the other, but it is interesting that they are deciding to set up shop on Long Island and are looking to create 1000 jobs, that are needed.
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Old 12-30-2023, 06:22 PM
 
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One isn't related to the other, but it is interesting that they are deciding to set up shop on Long Island and are looking to create 1000 jobs, that are needed.
All tax breaks in the state are related. You don’t think the residents of queensbride nycha development needed the jobs? They really needed it. No one cared about them sadly.

I love how 25k jobs at 4 times the salary gets dismissed. But a 1k jobs at barley over minimum wage is needed.

Don’t forget they are keeping the engineers overseas they said. Cheap labor. But let’s move manufacturing Blame Covid and delays apply for tax breaks to bring barley minimum wage jobs to Long Island. Great company strategy but this shouldn’t be given a tax break.

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Old 12-30-2023, 06:40 PM
 
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All tax breaks in the state are related. You don’t think the residents of queensbride nycha development needed the jobs? They really needed it. No one cared about them sadly.

I love how 25k jobs at 4 times the salary gets dismissed. But a 1k jobs at barley over minimum wage is needed.

Don’t forget they are keeping the engineers overseas they said. Cheap labor. But let’s move manufacturing Blame Covid and delays apply for tax breaks to bring barley minimum wage jobs to Long Island. Great company strategy but this shouldn’t be given a tax break.
Again, the Amazon situation is a separate situation from this announcement.

Is this just a way to get away from the actual topic, which is a specific announcement of job creation?
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Old 12-30-2023, 06:43 PM
 
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Again, the Amazon situation is a separate situation from this announcement.

Is this just a way to get away from the actual topic, which is a specific announcement of job creation?
Ok forget Amazon for this purpose.

Why isn’t the tax break the topic ? A 1000 barley over minimum wage jobs isn’t a cause for a celebration. Why not discuss the underlying causes and effects ? Or why the engineer jobs are left over seas ? We could use these jobs since they usually are higher paying.

We need all the tax revenue we can get. Why does this company earn a tax break for a 1k jobs for barley over minimum wage jobs ? That should and is the topic in my eyes.

They pushed the back log that happened during Covid and that’s why this is needed. Should we be doing more to avoid this ? Will this company single handedly avoid that backlog with their 1k jobs ?

Based on news12 article a hofstra professor interviewed said

“ With a starting salary of $46,000, Melkonian says Orbics could have a hard time attracting job seekers.
"At least $10,000 more than that. We're talking about maybe $55,000 to $56,000 as a beginning salary and particularly because of the inflation we've suffered,” said Melkonian.”


Great they 20 percent below market value for this
“ A $30 million investment will be offset by property and sales tax breaks by New York state and the Suffolk Industrial Development Agency.”

What a joke.

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Old 12-30-2023, 08:56 PM
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$46k is foodstamps, section 8, & medicare territory in NY.
It’s barely enough to cover rent and car insurance.
*harruuumpfff*
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Old 12-30-2023, 09:02 PM
 
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Ok forget Amazon for this purpose.

Why isn’t the tax break the topic ? A 1000 barley over minimum wage jobs isn’t a cause for a celebration. Why not discuss the underlying causes and effects ? Or why the engineer jobs are left over seas ? We could use these jobs since they usually are higher paying.

We need all the tax revenue we can get. Why does this company earn a tax break for a 1k jobs for barley over minimum wage jobs ? That should and is the topic in my eyes.

They pushed the back log that happened during Covid and that’s why this is needed. Should we be doing more to avoid this ? Will this company single handedly avoid that backlog with their 1k jobs ?

Based on news12 article a hofstra professor interviewed said

“ With a starting salary of $46,000, Melkonian says Orbics could have a hard time attracting job seekers.
"At least $10,000 more than that. We're talking about maybe $55,000 to $56,000 as a beginning salary and particularly because of the inflation we've suffered,” said Melkonian.”


Great they 20 percent below market value for this
“ A $30 million investment will be offset by property and sales tax breaks by New York state and the Suffolk Industrial Development Agency.”

What a joke.
The reality and this isn't exclusive to NY, but tax breaks or incentives in the name of the game for companies to entice them to set up shop, move, etc.

In terms of the salary, it is the average. So, some will make more, but some will make a little less. Meaning, you are looking at a dual/multiple income household. If this was in parts of Upstate, it wouldn't be so bad.
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Old 12-30-2023, 09:09 PM
 
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The reality and this isn't exclusive to NY, but tax breaks or incentives in the name of the game for companies to entice them to set up shop, move, etc.

In terms of the salary, it is the average. So, some will make more, but some will make a little less. Meaning, you are looking at a dual/multiple income household. If this was in parts of Upstate, it wouldn't be so bad.
But this isn’t enticing them. They are enticing us by saying give us tax breaks and we will bring the lower paid jobs in and saying hey we will prevent the backlog that was seen during Covid. At least bring the engineer jobs. They are leaving those over seas because the salaries are higher here.

Let’s celebrate jobs that people can support Themselves on.

Amazon would have brought higher paid jobs in.
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Old 12-30-2023, 09:28 PM
 
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But this isn’t enticing them. They are enticing us by saying give us tax breaks and we will bring the lower paid jobs in and saying hey we will prevent the backlog that was seen during Covid. At least bring the engineer jobs. They are leaving those over seas because the salaries are higher here.

Let’s celebrate jobs that people can support Themselves on.

Amazon would have brought higher paid jobs in.
Amazon doesn't have anything to do with this. Why are you stuck on that?

Sure, the salary average(key word) should be higher, but some people are going to actually take those jobs either to start out or to supplement a multi income household, especially if they are the jobs that are above that average.
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