New IL homes require EV chargers (home builders, buyers, construction)

[pvande55]

https://pantagraph.com/news/state-an...king.%E2%80%9D
New bill requires New homes to have EV chargers. Futuristic move that will add under 1% increase in costs, or another example of IL "woke" politics?

[Nodpete]

Basically, it's another example of how stupid IL. politicians are.

[chirack]

Originally Posted by Nodpete

Basically, it's another example of how stupid IL. politicians are.

??? The best time to add this is at the construction of a building. After construction adding EV charging would cost much more.

[Nodpete]

Yes that would be the best time to install a charger, but to make it MANDATORY reeks of abuse of power.

[GraniteStater]

It will increase the value of the house and would be a thing that a larger percentage of buyers will be looking for.

[Cool Arrow]

Bill does NOT require chargers. It requires infrastructure, which is basically just an electrical service/line. Chargers are pretty affordable, some as cheap as $400, so unless your home is going to cost $40,000 I don't see how it would be 1% of a new home construction.

[ChiGuy2.5]

Originally Posted by Nodpete

Yes that would be the best time to install a charger, but to make it MANDATORY reeks of abuse of power.

THIS ^^^^

No reason to force it on home builders, especially when an EV CAN be charged using 110amps. It's just slower. It's like forcing a home to wire for solar panels when it's uncertain if any future owner would even want them. Makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Cool Arrow

Bill does NOT require chargers. It requires infrastructure, which is basically just an electrical service/line. Chargers are pretty affordable, some as cheap as $400, so unless your home is going to cost $40,000 I don't see how it would be 1% of a new home construction.

The infrastructure is the expensive part. Chargers come with the car. The infrastructure is really about running a 220amp service which isn't common in today's households. There is no reason they should make it mandatory especially when we don't yet know how we will support an EV in all homes on the electric grid.

[Cool Arrow]

Originally Posted by ChiGuy2.5

THIS ^^^^

No reason to force it on home builders, especially when an EV CAN be charged using 110amps. It's just slower. It's like forcing a home to wire for solar panels when it's uncertain if any future owner would even want them. Makes no sense.



The infrastructure is the expensive part. Chargers come with the car. The infrastructure is really about running a 220amp service which isn't common in today's households. There is no reason they should make it mandatory especially when we don't yet know how we will support an EV in all homes on the electric grid.

70% of new ovens are electric, which require 220. I would think and hope that almost every new home comes with 220.

[Maintainschaos]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

It will increase the value of the house and would be a thing that a larger percentage of buyers will be looking for.

I agree.

[chirack]

Originally Posted by ChiGuy2.5

THIS ^^^^

No reason to force it on home builders, especially when an EV CAN be charged using 110amps. It's just slower. It's like forcing a home to wire for solar panels when it's uncertain if any future owner would even want them. Makes no sense.

It is much slower. 110 will give about 3-5 mile of range per hour depending on car and charger. It is fine for someone that drives under 30 to 50 miles a day and can charge all night(8 hours--i.e. a Sunday driver) but most people need something a little faster. In addition the 110 needs to be on it's own line for safety reasons because having an EV is like having a large appliance on the outlet and it can overload it if other large items are on the same circuit. If you were to go on a trip that drained your vehicle it could take anywhere from 24 hours to 48 hours to fully charge the car(depending on the model). This is fine for someone who does not need to drive to work, but if you need to travel 30miles to work and 30 miles back as well as us the heat or A.C. this is not going to keep up and if you drain your battery after a road trip Sunday and need to drive to work Monday you could have trouble because at best you would only have 40 miles of charge after a 8 hour over night season.

Level 2 charging is more than twice as fast. Again depending on model, a 240V line that has 30Amps(The kind for a dryer) can give around 20 miles per hour. One that has 50AMP(like for an oven) can give around 30 miles per hour. The reason why you want the faster charge is because you don't want to need to charge the car every night to be able to get back to work and you might like to make a few trips from time to time. There are higher AMP ones that can be added but they are the kind that need to be wired in but a 30-50 amp line should be just fine. Also like the 110 outlet the EV needs to be on it's own line for safety.

The infrastructure is the expensive part. Chargers come with the car. The infrastructure is really about running a 220amp service which isn't common in today's households. There is no reason they should make it mandatory especially when we don't yet know how we will support an EV in all homes on the electric grid.

Not really. There are the level 2 chargers that can do like 40-80mile per hour but they are the kind that need special wiring. Also the grid will simply add capacity over time and it helps if not every car is plugged in every night all night to get charged.