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Old 04-13-2022, 05:36 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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You obviously don't have a clue about what Boise is like socially and politically. And you don't seem to understand how cities are chosen to place refugees in. ......

If the refugees are welcome in America, why can't they choose where they want to live? Why is it that they are told they can come in but only if they move to a tiny town in a cold and underpopulated state? I suspect that if they could come and live any place they wanted to live, they would pick major cities with large populations from their native country. They would choose New York City or Miami or Chicago. Not Boise which is a place they have never heard of before, located in Idaho, which is a place they have never heard of before.


I don't have any problem about legal immigration, but why are people being moved around like cattle with no say in where they will live?
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If the refugees are welcome in America, why can't they choose where they want to live? Why is it that they are told they can come in but only if they move to a tiny town in a cold and underpopulated state? I suspect that if they could come and live any place they wanted to live, they would pick major cities with large populations from their native country. They would choose New York City or Miami or Chicago. Not Boise which is a place they have never heard of before, located in Idaho, which is a place they have never heard of before.


I don't have any problem about legal immigration, but why are people being moved around like cattle with no say in where they will live?
How chan they choose a place to live when they know nothing at all of America?

She few refugees do have connections here, family members or friends who inform them of a community, but most don't know a thing about any city with the possible exceptions of New York City and Los Angeles. They refugees with connections to move to where there are others from their homelands.
But many only know there are others like them here, somewhere, and this is a very large country. They don't know how to contact anyone or any information they need to move.

They mostly all rely on the folks who helped them get here for advice, and since they can't speak the language and know nothing of our customs or our lifestyle, they end up in the relocation centers that are tailored to teach them.

Sometimes there are very few of those centers to choose from.

Due to their worldwide missionary effort, the LDS church often has returned missionaries who spent time in the refugee's native countries, and they know their language, customs, etc. So some of the centers, especially in Idaho and Utah, have a lot of support these people need when they first arrive.

Once they have learned about how to live here, the refugees will then leave to join others from their former homes, wherever those groups are located. Some stay here, because they've become familiar with the cities they've spent about a year in, have made some local friendships, so they're no longer strangers.
Idaho's small towns may have similar ways of life to them. Some stay here for the same reasons why native Americans move here; they like Idaho as a big change from the life they've known.

Personally, I think the refugees who arrive on our shores are resourceful, smart, strong, resilient, and dedicated people. The kind of people America needs. It takes all those qualities to be able to leave their homes under great duress and travel this far away from where they came.

Especially when they all know they won't be going back to their former homes for many years. Or forever.
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Old 04-14-2022, 04:30 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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So I guess ya'll have NO concerns at all of those such as the MS16 gang members coming across the border with their drugs and distribution organization they are setting up across the nation now that they've had easy access? A wide open uncontrolled border is and has never been a smart idea. But we will indeed find out soon enough how this is going to impact us. The time it made sense is back from the early 1900's till the 50's when Ellis Island was setup to process those that wanted to come here. They had to have paperwork or proof of a skill or employment. A place to live planned out prior to entry. They were then tested for a communicable disease. If they didn't pass on all counts they were not admitted. They didn't simply let them in with no planned place to live, income determined etc. There were NO free rides like we now have big time. I have to admit the way it was before made a LOT more sense and benefitted this country a LOT more. Our move towards socialism is NOT doing us any good.
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Old 04-15-2022, 11:30 AM
 
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So I guess ya'll have NO concerns at all of those such as the MS16 gang members coming across the border with their drugs and distribution organization they are setting up across the nation now that they've had easy access? A wide open uncontrolled border is and has never been a smart idea. But we will indeed find out soon enough how this is going to impact us. The time it made sense is back from the early 1900's till the 50's when Ellis Island was setup to process those that wanted to come here. They had to have paperwork or proof of a skill or employment. A place to live planned out prior to entry. They were then tested for a communicable disease. If they didn't pass on all counts they were not admitted. They didn't simply let them in with no planned place to live, income determined etc. There were NO free rides like we now have big time. I have to admit the way it was before made a LOT more sense and benefitted this country a LOT more. Our move towards socialism is NOT doing us any good.
I think you're confusing refugees from across the ocean who are placed in the USA legally via refugee placement programs with the border at Mexico.
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Old 04-15-2022, 03:04 PM
 
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So I guess ya'll have NO concerns at all of those such as the MS16 gang members coming across the border with their drugs and distribution organization they are setting up across the nation now that they've had easy access? A wide open uncontrolled border is and has never been a smart idea. But we will indeed find out soon enough how this is going to impact us. The time it made sense is back from the early 1900's till the 50's when Ellis Island was setup to process those that wanted to come here. They had to have paperwork or proof of a skill or employment. A place to live planned out prior to entry. They were then tested for a communicable disease. If they didn't pass on all counts they were not admitted. They didn't simply let them in with no planned place to live, income determined etc. There were NO free rides like we now have big time. I have to admit the way it was before made a LOT more sense and benefitted this country a LOT more. Our move towards socialism is NOT doing us any good.
Who or what does MS16 stand for? I have heard of the Nortenos and surenous gangs.
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Old 04-15-2022, 03:13 PM
 
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According to some folks who I have as friends that grew up here, they tell me it's largely been due to CSI (College of Southern Idaho) that has quite literally moved the process forward of bringing in many outside people most of which were either illegals or immigrants from far off places in droves. They have been THE primary liberal influence in the area, as most I've met from anywhere say within about 50 or more miles from there are quite conservative and don't buy into the college's maneuvers. It is quite well known that there are thousands of illegals harbored by the Dairy industry in the area in general as there are some HUGE dairy farms mainly from Twin Falls west into Gooding County that would otherwise never have the workforce they need to keep things going. Most people just look the other way. But all one has to do is take a visit to the Walmart in say Jerome sometime, and watch the full carts from Hispanics that will whip out their EBT cards to pay for their load of merchandise. You have to wonder how this occurs. But then it's all over the place, free this and free that now in the U.S. And 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count who will pay for this.
Thanks. Sounds like the left minority, overpowers the right majority conservatives, on the issue of illegal immigration in TF.
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Old 04-15-2022, 04:23 PM
 
Location: The City of Trees
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Thanks. Sounds like the left minority, overpowers the right majority conservatives, on the issue of illegal immigration in TF.
Many if not most of the farmers in the Twin Falls area are conservative. Go visit one of those farms that contributes to our economy and feeds you and the world, and tell them how you feel.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:33 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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I think you're confusing refugees from across the ocean who are placed in the USA legally via refugee placement programs with the border at Mexico.
Not confused at all. I'm simply saying the current methods employed at the southern border are going to contribute to our demise as compared to the more sensible (LEGAL) way it was done years ago.
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Old 04-17-2022, 05:36 PM
 
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How is t he housing market now in TF compared Boise?
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Old 04-17-2022, 07:28 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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The TF housing market is brutal. Homes that a couple years ago would have sold for under $300k are now over $500k. And new homes are outrageously expensive. Worse yet they have some developments for example east of town that are popping up like weeds, and they are cookie cutter style no less. Rent is beyond absurd. One can plan on paying $1200-$1500 a month for a 1 bed 1 bath place. Heck my mortage on a 4-year-old custom home isn't anywhere near that expensive. I feel sorry for anyone trying to by at this time. Still wonder where they are planning on housing all the illegals CSI is importing into the area. They'll all end up with EBT cards courtesy of those of us that work for a living anyway. So go's the liberals way of life.
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