05-15-2009, 12:55 PM
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Laid-back lifestyle? Where is that (in florida) ?'
Definitely! That's awesome! And the panhandle is the exception! good choice, RVlover!
05-15-2009, 01:05 PM
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Laid-back lifestyle? Where is that? In FL, it's all about running in a hurry to go nowhere, for the most part any way. When people from the busy NorthEast move to FL over years and years, it turns into that place.
You need to get out of South Florida to find it. Even there if you live on the beach in Delray and never get on I-95 you'll be fine...lol
05-15-2009, 01:21 PM
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But the people up there arent coming to FL either. Certainly not for jobs anyway, and the difference between FL and those states are like 1 - 1.5%, so it's not a huge deal, imo.
If 1 - 1.5% isn't a huge deal to you, then FLorida isn't doing so bad, since Florida is only 1% above the NATIONAL average.
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Someone in Charlotte or Atlanta probably is going to look for work in their city, there not coming to FL, 9 out of 10 times anyway. But people in FL are looking up there, maybe the unemployment rate is 1% higher there or whatever, but a lot of the common factors behind Floridians moving up there are better quality of life, etc.
Estimated average household income in Atlanta is $47,000.
Estimated average household income in Tampa is $44,000.
$3000 is not a significant difference in the types of wages and earnings demonstrably being earned by the populations in the respective metros. The traffic is certainly not any better, nor is crime (it's worse in Atlanta than Tampa) or education.
Atlanta Schools - Atlanta Georgia School Ratings - Public and Private
Tampa Schools - Tampa Florida School Ratings - Public and Private
Bellhops and gas station attendants in Georgia do not make better livable wages compared to similarly situated minimum wage workers in Florida.
The only thing left, then, is if someone prefers the climate in Atlanta better. I'll take my sea breeze over hot stagnant Atlanta summers any day, however. But that's subjective.
In fact, any claim to "Better quality of life" is subjective. You're "new" here, but you sound an awful lot like some other posters on this board we've had before, extolling the virtues of South Carolina, North Carolina, etc. The same wide eyed optimism that some of the most pessimistic Floridians deride out of staters looking to move to Florida for a better life is also the same wide eyed naivete that they exhibit when extolling the virtues of other states.
If it suits you, have at it. But DO remember it IS subjective. I can swim in my pool in February and sit in my hammock beneath the Palm tree in my back yard afterwards. Can't do that in Raleigh. I can barely go in the ocean if water temperatures are below 80 degrees.
05-15-2009, 01:36 PM
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LOL, try sitting in your hammock in May, June, July, August, September, and even into October, lol. It's too hot! You can sit and enjoy the outdoors in Raleigh as much if not more so than in S FL.
05-15-2009, 01:50 PM
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LOL, try sitting in your hammock in May, June, July, August, September, and even into October, lol. It's too hot! You can sit and enjoy the outdoors in Raleigh as much if not more so than in S FL.
Like I said. Subjective.
Comparing Alpharetta to Riviera Beach? Give me a break. Therein lies your perception problem. Try comparing Jupiter, Palm Beach Gardens, Parkland or Weston to Alpharetta next time.
05-15-2009, 01:56 PM
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Personally, I don't get it either. I didn't get in 1971. I especially don't in 2009. Weather. It has to be ALL ABOUT WEATHER.
05-15-2009, 02:02 PM
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RVLover, glad to hear your happy. The only thing is, people coming here for simply chepaer housing and not shoveling snow are at times, disappointed in their choice to relocate to FL. But you chose the panhandle, and in that case, I see why you moved to FL!
I can understand people moving here and not being able to secure a job , or, working for substantially less than up North. I guess that would certainly disappoint many . I think its a matter of finding a good match between your individual circumstances and a prospective State within the U.S. -- it certainly requires much thought, planning, exploration , and required resources before one makes a final decision. Based on my own circumstances, Florida was almost a given...although i did consider the Gulf part of Alabama as well as South Carolina ; my sister being in Florida was a big consideration i might add. Family is very important in these troubling times . Regards.
05-15-2009, 02:16 PM
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If 1 - 1.5% isn't a huge deal to you, then FLorida isn't doing so bad, since Florida is only 1% above the NATIONAL average.
Estimated average household income in Atlanta is $47,000.
Estimated average household income in Tampa is $44,000.
$3000 is not a significant difference in the types of wages and earnings demonstrably being earned by the populations in the respective metros. The traffic is certainly not any better, nor is crime (it's worse in Atlanta than Tampa) or education.
Atlanta Schools - Atlanta Georgia School Ratings - Public and Private
Tampa Schools - Tampa Florida School Ratings - Public and Private
Bellhops and gas station attendants in Georgia do not make better livable wages compared to similarly situated minimum wage workers in Florida.
The only thing left, then, is if someone prefers the climate in Atlanta better. I'll take my sea breeze over hot stagnant Atlanta summers any day, however. But that's subjective.
In fact, any claim to "Better quality of life" is subjective. You're "new" here, but you sound an awful lot like some other posters on this board we've had before, extolling the virtues of South Carolina, North Carolina, etc. The same wide eyed optimism that some of the most pessimistic Floridians deride out of staters looking to move to Florida for a better life is also the same wide eyed naivete that they exhibit when extolling the virtues of other states.
If it suits you, have at it. But DO remember it IS subjective. I can swim in my pool in February and sit in my hammock beneath the Palm tree in my back yard afterwards. Can't do that in Raleigh. I can barely go in the ocean if water temperatures are below 80 degrees.
your bottom line is WEATHER. Weather is not going to pay your mortgage, put food on your table, or give your kids a good education.
PS. You can swim in your pool in February because you HEAT it. In Naples in January the Gulf water temps are in the 60s. Goggle that if you don't believe it. When we went in April, the water temp was 72 degrees. Probably a lot colder even then than you heated pool.
05-15-2009, 02:34 PM
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I dont even think weather in FL is that great. If you go to the Carolina's or Tennessee, that, imo, is better. you get the cold but not freezing, you get snow but very little, it gets hot in the summer, and spring and fall can be warm, perfect, and cool and crisp. To me, it's everything weather should be. Why be HOT 9 months out of the year if your decision is based only on weather?
05-15-2009, 02:42 PM
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Like I said. Subjective.
Straight from the Orlando forum...
"Lots of people from FL are moving to Raleigh, NC. I moved in 95 from the Winter Springs area and love it here. If any of you want info on the area, just let me know. The schools are great, its a family friendly area with a much more stable real estate market then FL has at the moment."
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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