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Dog or animal aggression is COMPLETELY different than Human aggression.
I don't know why that's so hard for some of you to understand.
My dogs don't like some other dogs. They happen to be fine with cats. They LOVE ALL HUMANS. If any of my dogs ever displayed aggression towards a human they would be taking their last trip to the vet.
Because I know they don't like all dogs, they are never off leash. They are never at a dog park.
Lovebeingme. Is it the Amstaff you own ? Im in a similar situation with my town. Somebody wants to have a ban on all 'pit bull type' dogs. It will never happen but hes got the City council discussing it. I have to go to a public meeting to defend the breed. THe thing is that people in genearl are ignorant.
The thing is, that generally when you see 2+ snarling pitbulls, being agressive towards people and other animals, there is usually a deeper problem within that house. Animal abuse, drugs or whatever. That proble needs to be solved in order to get rid of agressive dogs of that type. They are a fashion accessory to scumbags basically. In most cases, these dogs arenot even true pitbulls but anything bread with an AmStaff or Staff to make it look bigger, stronger and meaner.
What people dont get about pitbulls is that yes they were bred to fight dogs but on the other hand bred to be absolutely obey and trust their master. Remember in pitbull rings there were two dogs and two dog handlers. What good is having a dog handler in the ring if the dogs attack people ?
For the best part, dog / dog agression has been bred out of the IMHO. Though, like any dog breed its essential to socialise them with other dogs from a young age.
Brian, you sound like you have a lot of experience with American Staffordshires. Maybe you can answer this for me.
You take two AmStaffs. Both raised and trained by the same responsible owner. Male and female. The female is a sweetie, never shows a tooth in her life. The male is tremendously aggressive towards people and especially other dogs. Eventually the male has to be put down, for killing several dogs and seriously hurting his owner during his last fight. I know the person who owned them and I know this person did everything she could to train and control this dog. His last attack he went through a sliding glass door to get to a dog. The owner didn't anticipate the dog doing this.
By the way, both dogs were from the same litter.
I know how much she loved the male and worked with him. It was so hard for her to have him put down.
I've wondered for the last couple of years how two well bred dogs from the same litter could be so different in temperament. Any opinion?
I have more experience with Staffs than Amstaffs. Some dogs can simply be agressive towards others, dogs and people. The dog before my staff was a Black Lab / Golden Retriever mix and he was agressive as anything. He tried to bite children mainly, and on several occasions. My neighbor had his brother, and that dog was as sweet as anything. The lab mix was mainly agressive if somebody came within 10 feet of the fence. Simply put, my vet said that sometimes dogs become overly agressive around their territory. My dog was the only one that showed any agression, whether it was towards humans or dogs. How did the dog kill other dogs ? If he got out and off the property and killed one i would have had him put down after the first time, not the tenth.
I'm glad you brought up the aggression in the Lab/Golden mix. The golden I have had horrible dog aggression from the time he was around eight months. After we were done with basic obedience, I found a trainer who probably saved that dog's life by teaching me how to avoid confrontations and deal with them with they arose. Nothing could change the fact that he was dog aggressive - only obedience training kept him under control. Right around the time he turned seven, he turned some kind of corner and just quit trying to kill every dog he came across. Now he's fine around everyone, though he is 13 and probably just too tired to care. But that was a long, educational seven years.
The AmStaff in question went through more obedience training than my golden did, but it didn't do any good when he saw another dog. None of the bad attacks were around his territory. I guess I've always wondered how two dogs from the same genetic line, with the same owner and training could have such different temperaments. I guess the answer is, "Sometimes it just happens."
By the way, we'd been begging this person to put that dog down for some time. Even her vet advised it. It was very foolish and dangerous to keep hoping things would get better and we all breathed a sigh of relief when he was gone.
wow! some people say the most ignorant things!... If you can train a wolf to be loving but not trust them.. and you cant trust "pit bulls" because they were bred to fight, well then can you really trust ANY dog?!?! All dogs came from wolves right??? sooo I dont understand how people think that "pit bulls" are going to turn on you because years and years and years ago they were bred to fight dogs!?!?! Human aggression was NEVER tolerated when people first bred "pit bulls" to fight! Most of those dogs were family dogs... these dogs were around people before, during and after these fights.. soo if the dog was human aggressive it was normally killed!... human aggression was NEVER bred into "pit bulls"... and human aggression and animal aggression are two completely different things!.... also! "pit bulls" are not the only breed that was bred to fight... bull dogs, american stafordshire terrier, mastifs, bull terriers... they were all breed to fight animals! does that mean they cant be trusted?... this is nuts! To compare a wolf to a pit bull is like comparing a house cat to a lion!... wolves are wild! even the ones that have been somewhat domesticated are still wild!... dogs have been domesticated long enough for the undesirable traits to have been bred out!... but just because they are domesticated doesnt mean they arent able to be a threat to people or animals... animals will be animals! and its not just "pit bulls" any breed of dog is still an animal and it will always be an animal! you cant compare wolves with dogs... and whether you like it or not and whether you want to believe it or not "pit bulls" are wonderful, tolerant, loyal, gental, smart, loving, trustworthy dogs (im not saying all of them are, just like with every other breed.. the ones that come from a good home are) no breed of dog.. INCLUDING american pit bull terriers, just attack! If they do.. there is a reason! and people have NO RIGHT to go kill off a whole breed just because there is some bad ones! would you say we need to kill off a whole race just because there are some bad people?!?!... You know what the sad part of all this is???? I have 2 american pit bull terriers and whether you liked them or not they would show you nothing but love! and you want to sit there and tell me that my dogs are dangerous and should be taken from our family and be killed just because some of them are mean!!!! OKAY! well, you wanna say that my dogs are bad because they are "pit bulls"?! Then we need to just kill all of the dalmatians, pameranions, labs, cocker spaniels... any breed that has had even one dog attack someone! they should all just be killed right?... "pit bulls", when tested for tolerance.. have time and time again come out above many many many popular family dogs!!!!!! and there are sooo many popular family breeds that kill more people a year than "pit bulls" do! so you want to kill all the "pit bulls" you need to be killing off every breed!
If you look at this attached list of recorded attacks,you can see just about any breed is capable of being aggressive. I don't see a continous lits of pit breeds. I've been more causious with little breeds than big ones!
I have met many a family pitbull that wasn't ready to roll over and expose it's belly for alittle attention!
[QUOTE= Now that you have your knickers in a twist, take a deep breath, now exhale ! I never said pits were the only aggressive breed, but they have their reputation for a reason. A pit chained to a railroad tie dragged it to the road , attacked my aunt, she had to have stitches and has nerve damage in her hand.
Then the 3 yr old girl that died do to punctured lungs from broken ribs caused by a pits jaws. The 6 yr old the had his face torn off, he is dead too, the retired gentlemen that jogged in the morning only to have a pit attack him, he had to drag it to his house and yell for his wife to call the police. The dog wouldn't let go, and like he said, he weighed 200 lbs, what would have happened if it had been a kid waiting for the school bus or a 120 lb woman jogging , that dog would have finished them off ! Then there's the pit that came into my yard , attacked my dog , punctured its neck and back , my dog was a small terrier , my gun is now kept in a handy spot ! I could keep going but it is a waste of my time . It is very true that any dog can bite, but when you ask the general public how they feel about pits, more likely then not you will get a negative response. My daughter was thinking about having her pit bull walk down the aisle with the ring attached to its collar on her wedding day . Just to be safe, she thought it would be a good idea to put a muzzle on it. This is the same dog that is near my grandkids. Not too comforting, if you ask me !
FYI...men that have pit bulls do so because they have tiny penis' and need to feel big , tough and strong, so they get a pit bull with a metal stud collar , women that have pit bulls, really want to be men , hahaha !!!
To be honest, I can't stop people from breeding or owning pits, but if they come on my property , then they are fair game.
I think your daughters idea was probably incase he got startled with such a big eventhat he would definately be overwhlmed, very sensible of her.
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