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Old 12-23-2022, 04:43 PM
 
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Felix trembled !

Paul spoke to him of the Judgment to come ! Acts 24:24-25

24 And after certain days, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, which was a Jewess, he sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ.

25 And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee.

Paul a faithful steward preached no doubt a Judgment day is coming, and perhaps warned that men will be held accountable for their sins before the Great Judge. We know Paul mentioned that day in Acts 17:30-31

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

The writer of Hebrews mentions it as a fundamental Doctrine Heb 6:1-2

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

See this isnt about running around all the time talking about God is Love Love Love,[false witnesses] but dont warn men of the Judgment,

2 Cor 5:10-11

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
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Old 12-24-2022, 07:48 AM
 
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Universalism gives false hope to the wicked of the world, but the Godly knows better Gods says of the wicked, even nations Ps 9:17

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
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Old 12-24-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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Universaism doesnt take serious Jesus admonition of the danger of hell fire Mt 5:22,29,30 10:28

22 But I[Jesus] say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Jesus uses a strong word here in Vs 29-30 cast as in cast into hell. Its the greek word ballō,

It means to throw with force, to cast a thing from oneself, throw it away:

These people will be discarded from His presence as trash, good for nothing but eternal burnings, whatever that may be, it wont be pleasant, that's for sure, and it will last forever !

Matt 10:28

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:38 AM
 
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Universaism doesnt take serious Jesus admonition of the danger of hell fire Mt 5:22,29,30 10:28

22 But I[Jesus] say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Jesus uses a strong word here in Vs 29-30 cast as in cast into hell. Its the greek word ballō,

It means to throw with force, to cast a thing from oneself, throw it away:

These people will be discarded from His presence as trash, good for nothing but eternal burnings, whatever that may be, it wont be pleasant, that's for sure, and it will last forever !

Matt 10:28

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Your satan seed theory is dangerous because it pits us against each other. No one here ever said there isn't hellfire, you just don't understand what that fire is (God Himself).

Remember when Jesus said to do good to those who do you harm? He said it would be like putting hot coals on their head. Take a clue from that. God is not a vindictive, angry God who pleases in torturing people forever like you suggest. You have have the balls to say God hates people. How can anyone take you serious?
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Old 12-24-2022, 12:27 PM
 
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HABAKKUK 2:14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. (NIV)
Everyone will praise the glory of the Lord as all of creation will be saved through Him.
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Old 12-24-2022, 03:24 PM
 
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HABAKKUK 2:14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. (NIV)
Everyone will praise the glory of the Lord as all of creation will be saved through Him.
Salvation is promised to one certain group of people Isa 45:17

17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

The rest will go to hell for their sins
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Old 12-24-2022, 05:43 PM
 
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Salvation is promised to one certain group of people Isa 45:17

17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

The rest will go to hell for their sins
...and God will be pleased they go to hell...His plan all along.

Have fun when you stand before the Creator because I believe pimps, prostitutes , pushers and even Pharisees will see the kingdom before someone who says God hates people will. Your doing the work of the accuser. Nice job.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:35 PM
 
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HABAKKUK 2:14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. (NIV)
Everyone will praise the glory of the Lord as all of creation will be saved through Him.
Habakkuk had no concept of being saved.

He spoke of the knowledge of God. Yes - everyone will have the knowledge of God. See Philippians 2:13
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Old 12-25-2022, 02:34 AM
 
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Habakkuk had no concept of being saved.

He spoke of the knowledge of God. Yes - everyone will have the knowledge of God. See Philippians 2:13
Habakkuk 3:13 and 18 refer to salvation
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Old 12-25-2022, 04:10 AM
 
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...and God will be pleased they go to hell...His plan all along.

Have fun when you stand before the Creator because I believe pimps, prostitutes , pushers and even Pharisees will see the kingdom before someone who says God hates people will. Your doing the work of the accuser. Nice job.
Yes whoever God didnt choose for Salvation, He rejects, hardens, blinds them

Rom 9:11-13

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Rom 9:17-18

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Rom 11:5-7

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
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