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Old 05-18-2008, 05:16 PM
 
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The automotive press has been talking up the Subaru diesel (2010 model, I think) and now here comes Honda with a 2009 Acura TSX DIESEL Touting 50+ mpg on the highway, it's supposed to have great passing acceleration with little of the telltale smoke and clatter of diesels.

Hmmm, Acura is a pretty popular marque, enough of these on the road might start to change some American minds about diesels.

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Old 05-18-2008, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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With Diesel being over $1.00 more per gal than reg. gas at this time. I'll pass.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:26 PM
 
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With Diesel being over $1.00 more per gal than reg. gas at this time. I'll pass.
Now is a great time to buy a diesel because there is so little interest in them. As much as the truckers are complaining about the current price hike, none of them are switching to gas engines. That should tell you something.

When things balance out again, diesel will go back down in relation to gas, and people will drive the price up in the clamor to buy them. That will probably happen just about the time that the warranties (and batteries) wear out on the hybrids that everybody is paying premium prices for.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Lettuce Land
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With Diesel being over $1.00 more per gal than reg. gas at this time. I'll pass.
From what I've read the financials on D v. G don't support your position. Could you have decided this more because of custom than reason?

Btw, if Acura and Subaru are using the advanced type of D engines they use in today's European models you may not be able to tell which is which when one passes by. They are quiet, fast and don't smell at all like the diesels I remember from a couple of decades ago.

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Old 05-18-2008, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns of NC
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Default AAA National Current Average Fuel Prices

Gasoline - $3.793
Diesel - $4.512
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:15 PM
 
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With Diesel being over $1.00 more per gal than reg. gas at this time. I'll pass.

4.50 dollars per gallon diesel / 50 miles per gallon diesel = 0.09 dollars per mile

3.50 dollars per gallon gas / 30 miles per gallon gas = 0.1167 dollars per mile
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:14 PM
 
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you people forget how EASY diesel is to make. (bio, veg, hell, even old motor oil can run in a diesel)
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I wish the government would at least do something to mitigate the cost of diesel.

I mean if you could lower the cost of diesel everything gets cheaper. Well everything that is delivered by a truck. So lets see that is just about everything!

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It absolutely floors me that the Smart Car diesel did not make it to our shores. I mean what does that thing do 60+mpg?

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Old 05-18-2008, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Way on the outskirts of LA LA land.
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I wish the government would at least do something to mitigate the cost of diesel.

I mean if you could lower the cost of diesel everything gets cheaper. Well everything that is delivered by a truck. So lets see that is just about everything!

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It absolutely floors me that the Smart Car diesel did not make it to our shores. I mean what does that thing do 60+mpg?
There are other diesels in Europe that do well in the mileage arena, too. Chevy's Lacetti coupe gets something like 63 MPG, while their wagon version gets about 54 MPG if I remember correctly. Why are these vehicles available there, but not here? If I were able to get that kind of mileage out of a compact car there, why couldn't I expect the same here? Everything I've heard on this issue is that the EPA won't allow these vehicles here. How does that help the environment? I'm sure that burning one gallon of diesel every 60 or so miles puts a lot fewer contaminants in the air than burning one gallon of gasoline every 30 or 35 miles.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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You are correct: you can "thank" the EPA for not allowing diesels in cars. For some reason trucks were exempted. (now why would a diesel in a truck burn any differently than a diesel in a car? Your right: it makes no difference what kind of vehicle it is mounted in...) Put a diesel in a truck, and you're fine. But put that same exact engine in a car, and you are breaking the law! A stupid law, but the law, nevertheless. (but then, this is what happens when politicians make the rules) Had something to do with not meeting the new emission standards for cars. What it means is the government would rather we burn 1 1/2 to 2 gallons of gas, rather than one gallon of diesel....
We could be burning biodiesel...from recycled vegetable oil. But instead, we're gonna import fresh oil from foreign countries who hate us? They will have our money, and we will have their expensive oil? So we can burn gas at 30mpg, instead of diesel at 50mpg? A bunch of those politicians need to be FIRED!


Bud
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