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The Figures provided by the Ministry of Justice state at the bottom of the figures that they include Immigration Centres and not just prisons, with over 30,000 people detained in Immigration Centres every year.
The United States also has about 30,000 immigrants detained, but they are housed in local jails, state prisons and a small number are in federal prisons, so they are already included in the figures stated earlier.
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Originally Posted by Brave New World
Not really as you are far less likely to go to prison in the first place or be placed in custody in the first place in the UK.
Ok let's reword my statement: If you find yourself behind bars in the UK, you are 40% more likely to die than an American prisoner behind bars. Better?
The United States also has about 30,000 immigrants detained, but they are housed in local jails, state prisons and a small number are in federal prisons, so they are already included in the figures stated earlier.
The 32,000 that are detained in the Immigration Centres every year are conveniently forgotten about when it comes to your statistics.
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Originally Posted by DerpyDerp
Ok let's reword my statement: If you find yourself behind bars in the UK, you are 40% more likely to die than an American prisoner behind bars. Better?
Wikipedia says that California had 1257 gun murders in 2010, while Texas had 805. The gun murder rate for California is 3.4 per 100,000, while the rate in Texas was 3.2.
California has very quality mattresses gun control laws, an "assault weapon" ban, magazine capacity limits, a waiting period and a limit of the number of guns a person can buy every month. Texas has none of those, yet has a slightly lower gun murder rate.
Texas has one of the highest gun murders or all straights - along with robberies involving firearms and assaults with a firearm.
And overwhelmingly they're not being committed by NRA members, those with licenses to carry concealed, Republicans, rednecks or any other demonized American demographic. They're committed by street criminals who ignore gun laws as if they didn't exist.
I just walked inside after buying a shiny new 9mm pistol at the local sporting goods store. 10 minutes, a signature, a painless background check and I was out the door with gun and ammo in hand. It's a gift for my daughter.
I would be happy to send all of our BLM activists over to them for a permanent fixing up of things over there. BLM have caused the deaths of thousands in places like Baltimore, Chicago, Dallas, Ferguson....no way UK can match our murder rate unless they get some BLM activists to stop policing crime ridden areas like they've been successful in doing here in the USA.
He was exaggerating, but in places where there have been large anti-cop protests and movements there has been an increase in murders because cops aren't policing as aggressively as before. Unfortunately, the majority of the lives lost will be black.
He was exaggerating, but in places where there have been large anti-cop protests and movements there has been an increase in murders because cops aren't policing as aggressively as before. Unfortunately, the majority of the lives lost will be black.
And why not? Why should the local police go in to protect areas where they get sued every time they turn around and there are riots when they do their job? If the area is so opposed to the police force, let them provide their own protection. They don't want the police, let the police stay away and leave them to their own devices.
Are you under the mis-impression that BLM is a peaceful, well organized, and trouble free group that is lawfully expressing their concerns??
And why not? Why should the local police go in to protect areas where they get sued every time they turn around and there are riots when they do their job? If the area is so opposed to the police force, let them provide their own protection. They don't want the police, let the police stay away and leave them to their own devices.
Are you under the mis-impression that BLM is a peaceful, well organized, and trouble free group that is lawfully expressing their concerns??
The BLM movement should be about establishing trusted relationships between police and the black community, but instead it's about anger and reparations for slavery and calls for divestiture from Israel, so it is doomed to failure.
Look at what's happening in Milwaukee: two nights of rioting and looting after a black cop shot an armed black man. His family members have been asking for calm, but I had to shake my head when the man's sister claimed that her brother wasn't a felon. Sorry lady, but when your brother illegally carries a loaded, stolen pistol and raises it at a cop, he's a felon several times over.
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