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Old 01-28-2023, 11:49 AM
 
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For the first time it its history, Canada will be building to supertall heights (300 metres or higher), with two Supertall skyscrapers currently under construction in Toronto set to be completed in 2024 and 2025. Both these buildings will be #1 and #2 tallest in Canada. There are more proposed so we'll see more and more of these popping up. The CN Tower is not considered a building although it is obviously a supertall structure at 552 metres.

The One
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_(Toronto)

Skytower
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_One_Yonge


What do you think of this? Good thing as they can accommodate more units and help with the housing crisis or getting too tall and beyond human scale
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Old 01-28-2023, 12:04 PM
 
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For the first time it its history, Canada will be building to supertall heights (300 metres or higher), with two Supertall skyscrapers currently under construction in Toronto set to be completed in 2024 and 2025. Both these buildings will be #1 and #2 tallest in Canada. There are more proposed so we'll see more and more of these popping up. The CN Tower is not considered a building although it is obviously a supertall structure at 552 metres.

The One
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_(Toronto)

Skytower
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_One_Yonge


What do you think of this? Good thing as they can accommodate more units and help with the housing crisis or getting too tall and beyond human scale
I like skyscrapers. As for human scale, I don't think it makes much difference if a building is 50 stories or a 100, at least from the ground.

Living in one, I can't see myself living past the 30th floor...but you never know.

I'm assuming these apartments are not low income, or even middle income, so I don't see construction such as this being part of the solution to the housing crisis.

Still, as I said, I like skyscrapers.
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Old 01-28-2023, 12:46 PM
 
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I like skyscrapers. As for human scale, I don't think it makes much difference if a building is 50 stories or a 100, at least from the ground.

Living in one, I can't see myself living past the 30th floor...but you never know.

I'm assuming these apartments are not low income, or even middle income, so I don't see construction such as this being part of the solution to the housing crisis.

Still, as I said, I like skyscrapers.
I would agree with you from street level a 50 story building vs a 100 story building isn't that much difference in terms of human scale since they are both high anyway. In the past there was a lot of resistance in T.O to these taller buildings due to shadowing. It looks like the city has just become increasingly desensitized to tall scrapers over the years. Also, I think Doug Ford has changed the approval process for the developers making it easier for these taller proposals to be approved.

I don't think these units will be on the lower level of the socioeconomic scale. They are 'prestige' locations and addresses so i'd imagine they'd go for more than the run of the mill condo in T.O. What i'm thinking though, is that whoever buys them won't be buying 'run of the mill units' so these may make other units more available for others who are middle class and it trickles down.
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Old 01-28-2023, 02:02 PM
 
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Like Nat, I love skyscrapers from an architectural standpoint. They are fascinating buildings from a distance. As for scale, a lot depends on the surrounding. If there are other supertalls in the vicinity, then it won’t look as imposing, otherwise it will stick out.

I definitely wouldn’t want to live at a very high level. Going through several dozen flight of stairs during an emergency is not pleasant.

On a side note, it’s interesting that the Burj Khalifa in Dubai has not been surpassed since it topped out in 2010.
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Old 01-28-2023, 03:48 PM
 
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Exciting! I walked past the construction site on Bloor Street for The One back in 2019. Yorkville will be enhanced by this development I bet. I wonder how will Toronto's skyline look after the construction of these supertalls. Hopefully they will contribute rather than take away from the skyline.
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Old 01-29-2023, 04:49 AM
 
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I think it would be interesting.

But don't kid yourself, the 1st building "The One" is located in Yorkdale... the moderately ritzy part of town. It will be out of budget for most people. At this point it's all about $$$. The housing market in Toronto (and GTA for that matter) is beyond ridiculous.

As much as I agree that we need to build higher density housing (condos VS houses), we also need to understand that the infrastructure in the immediate neighborhood will be taxed exponentially. Traffic, roads, sewage, water, policing, etc.
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Old 01-29-2023, 04:01 PM
 
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On a side note, it’s interesting that the Burj Khalifa in Dubai has not been surpassed since it topped out in 2010.
Yes I think there was a project in Jeddah that was supposed to be taller but there were funding issues and it was only partially built. We'll see if they can follow through with it. That said, Asia and the M.E have replaced the west for building ultra supertalls.

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Exciting! I walked past the construction site on Bloor Street for The One back in 2019. Yorkville will be enhanced by this development I bet. I wonder how will Toronto's skyline look after the construction of these supertalls. Hopefully they will contribute rather than take away from the skyline.
The One will tower above everything in the immediate area so I think it'll enhance the skyline looking at it perpendicular to Lake Ontario from the East or West. Sky tower will also be taller than the immediate surroundings but not as dominating. Looking at the skyline from the islands/south it should make difference - a counterpoint to the CN Tower as it is far enough from it to the east.

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As much as I agree that we need to build higher density housing (condos VS houses), we also need to understand that the infrastructure in the immediate neighborhood will be taxed exponentially. Traffic, roads, sewage, water, policing, etc.
What do you think of Ford's plan make it easier for SFH's to densify via additions to make them duplexes or triplexes?
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Old 01-29-2023, 06:29 PM
 
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Yes I think there was a project in Jeddah that was supposed to be taller but there were funding issues and it was only partially built. We'll see if they can follow through with it. That said, Asia and the M.E have replaced the west for building ultra supertalls.
Currently, the project in Jeddah is on hold, though it hasn’t been cancelled yet. The informal name for buildings that exceed 600m is megatall. Asia Is definitely getting the lion’s share of construction.

A while back, there was a hypothetical concept proposal for a mountain sized structure in Japan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Seed_4000
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:26 PM
 
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Currently, the project in Jeddah is on hold, though it hasn’t been cancelled yet. The informal name for buildings that exceed 600m is megatall. Asia Is definitely getting the lion’s share of construction.

A while back, there was a hypothetical concept proposal for a mountain sized structure in Japan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Seed_4000
I guess I just created a new informal name lol.. That x-seed is crazy though. You wouldn't get a full appreciation of the height as there is no substantial vertical drop. Kind of like a mountain.
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Old 01-31-2023, 03:43 PM
 
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Interesting Video on the ongoing construction boom in Toronto. A note about the One is that the architect is the infamous Sir Norman Foster, adding to the already impressive architectural pedigree in the city in terms of having pieces from many of the most prominent architects of the last several generations. We already have representation from Frank Gehry but one of the supertall proposals will add another Gehry for the city!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmNwuM6rWKo
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