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Old 11-12-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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I read online that if you are writing a non-fiction book, it should have anywhere from 50,000 to 75,000 words.

Does that include the appendix also? There will be many items in the appendix and I'm wondering if those are included in the word count?
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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There is no such rule.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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There is no such rule.

I'm just wondering if the word count would include the appendix.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:38 PM
 
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Nope. The appendix wouldn't count towards the total.

Any book can be as long as it takes to tell the tale. But most nonfiction (sparsely illustrated) would run around 40,000+ words. But exceptions abound.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:40 AM
 
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Ask a lemming for advice and you'll end-up falling off a cliff.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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Ask a lemming for advice and you'll end-up falling off a cliff.
That old, "factoid", has been soundly debunked, and this summary from Wikipedia is factually correct, as far as I can determine:

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Old 11-13-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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Ask a lemming for advice and you'll end-up falling off a cliff.

Are you paying attention?
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:06 AM
 
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OP, a non-fiction book has to be long enough to actually be a book. There is no word count requirement, except that amateur writers occasionally have a tendency to think that a rather short work qualifies as a book.

Appendix doesn't count in the word count.

I've always wondered how people came up with a word count, anyway. I can't figure out a way to get my word processor to give me a word count and I am for sure not going to go through a work and count them by hand.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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OP, a non-fiction book has to be long enough to actually be a book. There is no word count requirement, except that amateur writers occasionally have a tendency to think that a rather short work qualifies as a book.


During one of his campaigns, somebody asked Abe Lincoln (in a probable reference to his height and the unusual length of his limbs), "How long should a man's legs be?". Honest Abe's response was, "Only long enough to reach the floor".

Similarly, a book needs to be long enough to cover its topics/character development/plot elements properly.
There is no set length/word count, other than the reality that a really slim volume is not likely to qualify as anything more than a booklet.

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Old 11-14-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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I've always wondered how people came up with a word count, anyway. I can't figure out a way to get my word processor to give me a word count and I am for sure not going to go through a work and count them by hand.
If you are using Microsoft Word, just go to the pull-down menu labeled, "spelling".
One of the items in that pull-down menu should be, "word count".

I'm confident that other word processing programs have a similar feature, so if you tell us which program you use, someone can probably tell you where to locate the, "word count", feature of that program.

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