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Not sure why the disdain for Kearney list, which has proven it's much better, and compares cities in a more comprehensive manner than the GaWc list. Which simply goes by which cities compare to London/New York.
Absolutely, both Kearney and Resonance (creator of WRLDCTY Festival and the Best Cities Report which was another thread a few months ago) do an astoundingly thorough job! But all of this is like sports talk...people who can't or won't do do something get the chance to talk crap about others. It's totally fine and part of what makes it so great...the endless debate. I assume nobody at those global consulting firms takes any of this criticism personally, they get to do something fun and get paid to do it and of course you can't come close to pleasing everyone with these kinds of rankings.
Kearney is a very large firm so I just assume they put in some serious resources and time into this every year...it certainly looks like they do. Resonance is a very small and relatively new company but I'm quite confident from limited interactions with them that they really love doing this and take it extremely seriously.
Absolutely, both Kearney and Resonance (creator of WRLDCTY Festival and the Best Cities Report which was another thread a few months ago) do an astoundingly thorough job! But all of this is like sports talk...people who can't or won't do do something get the chance to talk crap about others. It's totally fine and part of what makes it so great...the endless debate. I assume nobody at those global consulting firms takes any of this criticism personally, they get to do something fun and get paid to do it and of course you can't come close to pleasing everyone with these kinds of rankings.
Kearney is a very large firm so I just assume they put in some serious resources and time into this every year...it certainly looks like they do. Resonance is a very small and relatively new company but I'm quite confident from limited interactions with them that they really love doing this and take it extremely seriously.
But Kearney’s rank are terrible for emerging markets...
Only 6 cities from emerging markets get into top 30 : Beijing / Shanghai / Seoul / Moscow / Bueno Aires / Dubai
Only 3 made it to the Outlook list (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Taipei)
But Kearney’s rank are terrible for emerging markets...
Only 6 cities from emerging markets get into top 30 : Beijing / Shanghai / Seoul / Moscow / Bueno Aires / Dubai
Only 3 made it to the Outlook list (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Taipei)
At this point Korea and Taiwan are hardly emerging markets. They are only classified as emerging markets because the currency is less accessible (esp. TWD).
But Kearney’s rank are terrible for emerging markets...
Only 6 cities from emerging markets get into top 30 : Beijing / Shanghai / Seoul / Moscow / Bueno Aires / Dubai
Only 3 made it to the Outlook list (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Taipei)
Shanghai, China
Beijing, China
Dubai, the U.A.E.
Mumbai, India
Mexico City, Mexico
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Moscow, Russia
Jakarta, Indonesia
Warsaw, Poland
Seoul, South Korea
Johannesburg, South Africa
Istanbul, Turkey
Shanghai, China
Beijing, China
Dubai, the U.A.E.
Mumbai, India
Mexico City, Mexico
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Moscow, Russia
Jakarta, Indonesia
Warsaw, Poland
Seoul, South Korea
Johannesburg, South Africa
Istanbul, Turkey
It's a fair observation, but I'm not sure it makes the GaWC classifications better than Kearney index.
ADVANCED ECONOMIES (NON-EURO AREA) (20 economies)
Kearney (16) : New York City / London / Tokyo / Hong Kong / Los Angeles / Chicago / Singapore / Washington, D.C. / Sydney / San Francisco / Seoul / Melbourne / Toronto / Boston / Montreal / Miami
GaWC (12) : London / New York City / Hong Kong / Singapore / Tokyo / Sydney / Los Angeles / Toronto / Chicago / Seoul / Zurich / Melbourne
ADVANCED ECONOMIES (EURO AREA) (19 economies)
Kearney (9) : Paris / Brussels / Berlin / Madrid / Vienna / Amsterdam / Munich / Barcelona / Frankfurt
GaWC (6) : Paris / Amsterdam / Milan / Frankfurt / Madrid / Brussels
EMERGING AND DEVELOPING ASIA (30 economies)
Kearney (2) : Beijing / Shanghai
GaWC (5) : Shanghai / Beijing / Mumbai / Kuala Lumpur / Jakarta
EMERGING AND DEVELOPING EUROPE (16 economies)
Kearney (1) : Moscow
GaWC (3) : Moscow / Warsaw / Istanbul
LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN (33 economies)
Kearney (1) : Buenos Aires
GaWC (2) : Mexico City / Sao Paulo
MIDDLE EAST AND CENTRAL ASIA (32 economies)
Kearney (1) : Dubai
GaWC (1) : Dubai
Dubai is correctly included, it is able to attract businesses, workers and tourists from many countries, both developed and developing. Doha should be included too. Both Dubai and Doha have many flights from ALL continents, most other Asian cities don't.
Shanghai and Beijing are as global as Seoul, Toronto and Sydney, all three are more global than Taipei.
Some other cities in the list do not have many foreigners from many countries across the world, are listed because they are the largest cities in countries with population larger than Germany, France and the U.K.
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Originally Posted by Daywalk
In contrast, 13 cities among top 30 cities are from emerging markets according to GaWC!
Shanghai, China
Beijing, China
Dubai, the U.A.E.
Mumbai, India
Mexico City, Mexico
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Moscow, Russia
Jakarta, Indonesia
Warsaw, Poland
Seoul, South Korea
Johannesburg, South Africa
Istanbul, Turkey
Dubai is correctly included, it is able to attract businesses, workers and tourists from many countries, both developed and developing. Doha should be included too. Both Dubai and Doha have many flights from ALL continents, most other Asian cities don't.
Shanghai and Beijing are as global as Seoul, Toronto and Sydney, all these are more global than Taipei.
Some other cities in the list do not have many foreigners from many countries across the world, are listed because they are the largest cities in countries with population larger than Germany, France and the U.K.
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Originally Posted by Daywalk
In contrast, 13 cities among top 30 cities are from emerging markets according to GaWC!
Shanghai, China
Beijing, China
Dubai, the U.A.E.
Mumbai, India
Mexico City, Mexico
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Moscow, Russia
Jakarta, Indonesia
Warsaw, Poland
Seoul, South Korea
Johannesburg, South Africa
Istanbul, Turkey
GaWC's classification better reflects the economic realities rather than ranking almost all cities in the top 30 from developed countries
It depends on your personal definition of "global cities" then. For me, present-day economy is simply one of a dozen or more factors I would consider. It is a very important factor to me, but overall only perhaps 25% of my final evaluation.
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