No, the English don't speak the "purest" form of English (education, areas)
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Even in England there is no pure English. Invasion from Nordics and immigration from Ireland has definitely shown this to not be true. Look at Northern England and the Scandivanian and Irish influenced dialects up there. So no. Pure English doesn't exist.
Yes quite, it doesn't stop people trying to claim otherwise though! Its particularly laughable when people claim the ENGLISH don't speak 'proper' ENGLISH lol, the thing is if you ARE English then it doesn't matter what comes out your mouth you are speaking pure English. I wonder what's coming next - The French don't speak French? The Germans don't speak 'proper' German? The Italians can't speak Italian perhaps?
Yes quite, it doesn't stop people trying to claim otherwise though! Its particularly laughable when people claim the ENGLISH don't speak 'proper' ENGLISH lol, the thing is if you ARE English then it doesn't matter what comes out your mouth you are speaking pure English. I wonder what's coming next - The French don't speak French? The Germans don't speak 'proper' German? The Italians can't speak Italian perhaps?
Proper is one thing. But how could Irish influenced English be called pure?
Proper is one thing. But how could Irish influenced English be called pure?
I'm not too sure what that is supposed to mean? But even if there is 'Irish' influence in the language you have to realise that English is influenced by FAR more than just 'Irish', the fact is there is NO standard English, you may THINK you are speaking English correctly but that is just folly, the truth is nobody can say that their English is the 'correct' English, but one thing for sure, if you ARE English then you can quite happily claim that whatever you say is pure English. Lets go on to the next question now - do the French know how to speak French?
I'm not too sure what that is supposed to mean? But even if there is 'Irish' influence in the language you have to realise that English is influenced by FAR more than just 'Irish', the fact is there is NO standard English, you may THINK you are speaking English correctly but that is just folly, the truth is nobody can say that their English is the 'correct' English, but one thing for sure, if you ARE English then you can quite happily claim that whatever you say is pure English. Lets go on to the next question now - do the French know how to speak French?
So are you saying that just being born in Britain means one speaks the purest form of English? My point is that pure English doesn't exist by virtue of it being England because it's not as if England had no outside influences.
English people like to say that Americans bastardized English but these same people don't know their own history.
In states in the south they often drop the g from words that end in ing. That's definitely not pure English.
IRISH do that too, very much. Listen to their folk songs - or to Roma Downey as "Tess" in the 1980s television series "Touched by an Angel" - if you can find it on re-runs or Youtube.
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I've heard that French Canadians traditionally speak using colonial-era dialect that was prevalent when their ancestors came to Canada in the 1600s and 1700s. Until the advent of 20th century mass media, their descendants had relatively little interaction with the mother country France (well, I suppose they did, however, as soldiers during both world wars), to hear how the language was evolving separately in France.
I'm sure that the posters "Acajack" and "Bimbam" could elaborate on this - or look up the subject on Wikipedia.
IRISH do that too, very much. Listen to their folk songs - or to Roma Downey as "Tess" in the 1980s television series "Touched by an Angel" - if you can find it on re-runs or Youtube.
Its interesting to learn that Irish people do that too. I'll try to look into that.
So are you saying that just being born in Britain means one speaks the purest form of English? My point is that pure English doesn't exist by virtue of it being England because it's not as if England had no outside influences.
English people like to say that Americans bastardized English but these same people don't know their own history.
Of course its 'pure' English because they ARE English, I think you fail to see my point. The thing is there is no such thing as 'correct' English however the fact that the English ARE English means that whatever they say is certainly 'pure' English. Who has the right to claim the English they speak is the real 'correct' one? All I will say is that there are small variations of the language not just across different continents or countries but within regions of countries too, and none of the variants are any more 'correct' than any other. Also the variants are small, the English spoken by all English speakers is very very similar, almost identical, we all speak the (almost exact) same language, its only the accents and the way that the words are pronounced that can sometimes make it hard to understand somebody else's English.
Of course its 'pure' English because they ARE English, I think you fail to see my point. The thing is there is no such thing as 'correct' English however the fact that the English ARE English means that whatever they say is certainly 'pure' English. Who has the right to claim the English they speak is the real 'correct' one? All I will say is that there are small variations of the language not just across different continents or countries but within regions of countries too, and none of the variants are any more 'correct' than any other. Also the variants are small, the English spoken by all English speakers is very very similar, almost identical, we all speak the (almost exact) same language, its only the accents and the way that the words are pronounced that can sometimes make it hard to understand somebody else's English.
You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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