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Old 03-17-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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I thought you expressed disdain at the concept of stay at home moms, Ariete.

By the way, in the US, mothers (and fathers) working at companies with over 50 employees are protected by the Family and Medical Leave Act and must be given the same position at work when they return as well.

Fifty percent of Finnish mothers with kids under 3 don't stay home though, in spite of any subsidies. Same percentage of American moms.

And let me take the opportunity to point out that these subsidies are not "free." Finland's taxes are crushingly high. In fact, the percentage of taxes per GDP in Finland is nearly double that of the US and is one of the highest in the world.
List of countries by tax revenue as percentage of GDP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And hey, Finland even has a church tax! Woohoooo! Go, Jesus!
Kathryn, we have FMLA, but the main caveat here is that our FMLA is unpaid leave. In the EU, FMLA is fully paid, and often has more allowance for leave than FMLA's 4 months or so.

 
Old 03-17-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Yeah we have them too, but they aren't as common anymore. It's been 4 decades since 1940s and 1950s neighborhoods were built

The main road is right around the corner, lol. Suburbs here aren't endless tracts of land that are completely isolated. That's what rural communities here. A lot of suburbs here are only 5 minutes away from businesses.

https://goo.gl/maps/V6xyi

Main road is down the street from this neighborhood. 10 minutes of traffic and traffic lights and you're already in downtown https://goo.gl/maps/Q8HGm
They look so isolated.

Lancaster, England is better
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...ea089595c0b389

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.06...10djbDz-Sg!2e0

Feels much more cosy
 
Old 03-17-2015, 07:41 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Yeah we have them too, but they aren't as common anymore. It's been 4 decades since 1940s and 1950s neighborhoods were built
In a lot of the Northeast, there hasn't been much construction since the 1970s. Area I grew up in had some but not much.

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The main road is right around the corner, lol. Suburbs here aren't endless tracts of land that are completely isolated. That's what rural communities here. A lot of suburbs here are only 5 minutes away from businesses.

https://goo.gl/maps/V6xyi

Main road is down the street from this neighborhood. 10 minutes of traffic and traffic lights and you're already in downtown https://goo.gl/maps/Q8HGm
A lot of Boston suburbs are isolated, houses among woods with big lots:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5507...ZIMNjO5reQ!2e0

Older ones are often compact, outer ones very low density to the point where it's hard to distinguish them from rural.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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In a lot of the Northeast, there hasn't been much construction since the 1970s. Area I grew up in had some but not much.



A lot of Boston suburbs are isolated, houses among woods with big lots:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5507...ZIMNjO5reQ!2e0

Older ones are often compact, outer ones very low density to the point where it's hard to distinguish them from rural.
Those look like exurbs, not suburbs, to me we have those here too, a lot of them are along the Turnpike in Lancaster County

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They look so isolated.

Lancaster, England is better
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...ea089595c0b389

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.06...10djbDz-Sg!2e0

Feels much more cosy
Bah, I prefer Norfolk not Norwich, but the towns around it, which is where me and wifey wanna move to.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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They look so isolated.

Lancaster, England is better
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...ea089595c0b389

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.06...10djbDz-Sg!2e0

Feels much more cosy
The first picture is roughly equivalent to the last picture from Pennsylvania.

The houses in your second picture don't look particularly nice.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Those look like exurbs, not suburbs, to me we have those here too, a lot of them are along the Turnpike in Lancaster County



Bah, I prefer Norfolk not Norwich, but the towns around it, which is where me and wifey wanna move to.
Really? Hmm Norfolk is pretty flat. Move to Hull great place.

Just outside Norwich
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...4ca5e00e12452f
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.64...uMYl-dzxdA!2e0




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The first picture is roughly equivalent to the last picture from Pennsylvania.

The houses in your second picture don't look particularly nice.
Yeah there not great looking but the streets are smaller and the scale seems more manageable than the 'burbs theunbrainwashed showed me.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Finland
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And hey, Finland even has a church tax! Woohoooo! Go, Jesus!
I don't pay it though, as I'm not a part of the Lutheran congregation.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Really? Hmm Norfolk is pretty flat. Move to Hull great place.
I go to Hull almost every day! Except here it's pronounced with a silent H: 'ull.

https://plus.google.com/111560117412...ut?gl=cm&hl=fr

Les Galeries de Hull - Centre Commercial
 
Old 03-17-2015, 08:23 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Those look like exurbs, not suburbs, to me we have those here too, a lot of them are along the Turnpike in Lancaster County
A lot of New England including outer Boston is like that, more than many people realize. The West, especially California doesn't have much of those. Instead, you have new packed in suburbia like shown in the OP. Typical outer suburb of San Francisco:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7487...0kZL1hXxIA!2e0

Looks nice until the water runs out. That San Francisco suburb may even vote Republican, if it does probably not by much; overall county Obama won by a 35 point margin so unlikely.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The style is different but it's not markedly different from many suburbs in North America.
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