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Old 06-02-2022, 10:43 PM
 
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consider yourself fortunate that you have accrued leave, which allows you to take the paid time off. Use your own leave. that's what it's for.
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Old 06-03-2022, 08:22 AM
 
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consider yourself fortunate that you have accrued leave, which allows you to take the paid time off. Use your own leave. that's what it's for.
What? Use personal leave for time off? That's ridiculous! Personal leave is for vacations and fun things, not medical stuff! /sarcasm

I also do not believe the only qualified surgeon is in Taiwan. That makes no sense at all.
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Old 06-03-2022, 09:06 AM
 
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Looks like you may have giving too much information to the employer.

Im in NYC, when i need FMLA, the doctor signs the paperwork, there is some privacy for the worker. One is entitled to 12 weeks fmla per year.

Since you have a STD claim with the FMLA , this get slightly complicated.

You can take time off without pay, then the FMLA which includes recovery time. Employer cant force you to use your hard earned benefits when they decide, its for you to use when you decide!
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Old 06-03-2022, 09:48 AM
 
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What? Use personal leave for time off? That's ridiculous! Personal leave is for vacations and fun things, not medical stuff! /sarcasm

I also do not believe the only qualified surgeon is in Taiwan. That makes no sense at all.

LOL I knew you were being sarcastic

I'm curious what type of surgery it is. I know for artificial disk replacement that Germany is the most advanced. The US is not doing what they've been doing there for 20+ years. If I have to get my other disks done, that's where I'm going. I won't get another fused in the US. Backs are not made to be stiff.
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Old 06-03-2022, 09:49 AM
 
Location: East TN
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What? Use personal leave for time off? That's ridiculous! Personal leave is for vacations and fun things, not medical stuff! /sarcasm

I also do not believe the only qualified surgeon is in Taiwan. That makes no sense at all.
Seriously, who trained him/her? With all the doctors and specialists we have here, there must be someone in the US trained for this type of surgery.

I sympathize with your situation, OP, but I'm a woman, we all know how many woman have had to use their entire sick leave and personal leave balance for maternity leave. So it's not like this sort of thing is a guaranteed right to anyone. It's just a unfortunate situation that happens to people all the time. I hope you can find a work around.
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Old 06-03-2022, 11:16 AM
 
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I think quarantine time is only covered if it is part of a covid positive ( or other medical) diagnosis.
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Old 06-03-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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LOL I knew you were being sarcastic

I'm curious what type of surgery it is. I know for artificial disk replacement that Germany is the most advanced. The US is not doing what they've been doing there for 20+ years. If I have to get my other disks done, that's where I'm going. I won't get another fused in the US. Backs are not made to be stiff.
It is actually something along those lines. I will be having my sympathetic chain worked on. It is a fairly major procedure. There are 2 surgeons in the US who perform it, both have poor results. I had the procedure done by one of them 3 years ago and it was a failure. I am now having to have a redo attempt which makes me a high risk candidate.

The claim examiner initially approved the leave. At one point last week, he must have noticed the word "quarantine" in one of my claim forms and decided to be an asshat and pull the rug out from under me 2 week before I am scheduled to leave and reissued an approval letter that does not cover the full time I am out.

As another poster said, too much information was shared with him.

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Old 06-03-2022, 11:51 AM
 
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Seriously, who trained him/her? With all the doctors and specialists we have here, there must be someone in the US trained for this type of surgery.

I sympathize with your situation, OP, but I'm a woman, we all know how many woman have had to use their entire sick leave and personal leave balance for maternity leave. So it's not like this sort of thing is a guaranteed right to anyone. It's just a unfortunate situation that happens to people all the time. I hope you can find a work around.

I am actually not aware of that being a thing. But this situation affecting me certainly makes me sympathize with those women.
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Old 06-03-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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The claim examiner initially approved the leave. At one point last week, he must have noticed the word "quarantine" in one of my claim forms and decided to be an asshat and pull the rug out from under me 2 week before I am scheduled to leave and reissued an approval letter that does not cover the full time I am out.

As another poster said, too much information was shared with him.
Not necessarily. For all you know, the formal certification sent to the employer had a treatment start date that was after the date you wanted to claim. That alone will cause a denial of the days prior to the start of your treatment. Additionally, when international travel is involved, only the dates of actual travel is accepted unless any additional dates are under the direct care of a health care professional. Unless your quarantine is specific and mandated as part of your treatment, it's just you "waiting it out" at a hotel.

I know you want to somehow make this an example of the Big Bad Employer, but truth is, you relaxing in the hotel room waiting is not a covered health condition under the law. (maybe adopt a kid during that time as that would be covered)
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Old 06-03-2022, 05:16 PM
 
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Not necessarily. For all you know, the formal certification sent to the employer had a treatment start date that was after the date you wanted to claim. That alone will cause a denial of the days prior to the start of your treatment. Additionally, when international travel is involved, only the dates of actual travel is accepted unless any additional dates are under the direct care of a health care professional. Unless your quarantine is specific and mandated as part of your treatment, it's just you "waiting it out" at a hotel.

I know you want to somehow make this an example of the Big Bad Employer, but truth is, you relaxing in the hotel room waiting is not a covered health condition under the law. (maybe adopt a kid during that time as that would be covered)
No. As per what I have already described, and per your own words above, the quarantine is specific and mandated as part of the treatment itinerary.

I am not blaming my employer. My employer is actually so far supporting me and saying they believe I should be eligible for FMLA benefits the entire time I am out for the surgery. It is the asshat claims processing company, Matrix Absence Management, which is making this difficult and not providing an explanation for their decision.

If dates of travel are to be accepted as part of the claim, then why is their approval start date on the date of my surgery? Why aren't they giving me a few more days of buffer?

I'm sure I'll feel very relaxed being on the other side of the world by myself about to undergo a major medical procedure. That's totally my idea of a relaxing time.

You're not making any sense.
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