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Old 09-12-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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Is it because employers seem to be more corrupt than usual (though I don't see how they could be as bad as they were in the pre-union era.)? Is it because of the everyone gets a trophy mentality and everyone doesn't feel they are getting what they deserve? Is it because people, especially men, are finding a lot of their value and personal worth (and others rate them this way too) from their jobs whereas, in the past, they got it from many things? Has there always been some level of annoyance, but, with the rise of the Internet, it's just more spoken now than it was in the pre-web days, especially as, unlike in the past, it's easier to post anonymously?
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Old 09-12-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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I'll answer this one. It's because U.S. corporations are allowed to do whatever it is they want to employees. No one puts any kind of regulations on companies and you can get fired just for looking at someone the wrong way.

Employees have little recourse unless they can pony up the funds for a lawyer, and even then, that won't stop the corporation from doing it to someone else. Execs are paid even more now than ever and rule the roost by firing those they don't like. Micromanaging is back in full force and seems to be encouraged. Basically, managers are now sent to a-hole school and the more of a micromanaging a-hole they are, the more they are rewarded.

Come in, do hard work, never call in sick - doesn't matter if you are a target of the mean girls club.
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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I'll answer this one. It's because U.S. corporations are allowed to do whatever it is they want to employees. No one puts any kind of regulations on companies and you can get fired just for looking at someone the wrong way.

Employees have little recourse unless they can pony up the funds for a lawyer, and even then, that won't stop the corporation from doing it to someone else. Execs are paid even more now than ever and rule the roost by firing those they don't like. Micromanaging is back in full force and seems to be encouraged. Basically, managers are now sent to a-hole school and the more of a micromanaging a-hole they are, the more they are rewarded.

Come in, do hard work, never call in sick - doesn't matter if you are a target of the mean girls club.
What kind of hell hole you've been working in?
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Is it because employers seem to be more corrupt than usual (though I don't see how they could be as bad as they were in the pre-union era.)? Is it because of the everyone gets a trophy mentality and everyone doesn't feel they are getting what they deserve? Is it because people, especially men, are finding a lot of their value and personal worth (and others rate them this way too) from their jobs whereas, in the past, they got it from many things? Has there always been some level of annoyance, but, with the rise of the Internet, it's just more spoken now than it was in the pre-web days, especially as, unlike in the past, it's easier to post anonymously?

Americans come off as more dissatisfied with everything, not just jobs. In the last two decades it's become a national disease.
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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Basically, managers are now sent to a-hole school and the more of a micromanaging a-hole they are, the more they are rewarded.

Come in, do hard work, never call in sick - doesn't matter if you are a target of the mean girls club.
I'm a manager. I must have missed the sign up for a-hole school. Must have been taking place while I was holding a group meeting. I wish to be rewarded more, no question. So just how to I do this where it will net me more compensation by micromanaging people?

I'm not an a-hole, but I can certainly learn. Please teach us.
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Is it because employers seem to be more corrupt than usual (though I don't see how they could be as bad as they were in the pre-union era.)? Is it because of the everyone gets a trophy mentality and everyone doesn't feel they are getting what they deserve? Is it because people, especially men, are finding a lot of their value and personal worth (and others rate them this way too) from their jobs whereas, in the past, they got it from many things? Has there always been some level of annoyance, but, with the rise of the Internet, it's just more spoken now than it was in the pre-web days, especially as, unlike in the past, it's easier to post anonymously?
You have any facts on this? Like a trusted source that has published metrics?
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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What kind of hell hole you've been working in?
Apparently the kind where you make more money being a micromanager, which is odd, because as a manager I have made more money by delegating projects and tasks to people.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Employers are trying to punt more work into less workers with no matching increase in compensation.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:07 PM
 
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What kind of hell hole you've been working in?
A much too common hell.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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When was working and employment some mystical garden full of fun and adventure?

Work is work. It's all been the same since I began working over 25 years.

What has changed are worker expectations. All of the "find your purpose at work" stuff has set up unrealistic expectations.
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