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Old 06-30-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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People dismissively suggest go get a so called "menial" job to peole that are unemployed. I have to tell you out of touch people it is not easy. I have sat down for interviews with Managers at Red Robin, Chilis, Giant Supermarket act. I have been asked to take outrageous online personality test. These supposed "menial" jobs are not easy to obtain anymore. I really encourage some of you to go try it. 15 years ago there was not the bureaucratic hoops to go through. A person could walk into KFC and explain that he/she is having a hard time and the Manager would feel sorry for you and offer you a job. Now they say, you are not experienced and ask you the nonsensical questions like, "Tell me a time when…." If you are over 40 go to the SS office and apply for SSI. The system is stacked against us.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Those personality tests are not new. I remember applying to Toys R Us, for a holiday season job, and had to take a paper exam with those questions. This was back in 1997.

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Old 06-30-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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Certainly there are many factors involved in supposed "menial" jobs being filled quickly and not having many openings. Not the least being college grads that cannot find entry level employment in their fields working a job in which they are underemployed just to pay the bills. A lot of things have happened economically over the past generation of workers and management seems to keep raising the bar for jobs that were considered entry level in the past. They also want someone else to have trained that rookie employee so they don't have to spend the time and effort in doing so. And whether universities are doing an adequate job in that training; well that is another question entirely.
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Old 06-30-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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Those personality tests are soul-draining, especially when nothing arises from their completion.
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Old 06-30-2016, 06:11 PM
 
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I'm just going to turn 40 in a few months, and I haven't held a full time job in 4 years. I've survived by doing labor gigs during that time, basically working on my own. Don't you have to be disabled to apply for SSI?
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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It's not hard to get a job at KFC where I live. It may depend where you are located.

But getting a good paying job is hard to find most anywhere, Thanks to US Trade policy, illegal immigration, visa programs, etc. I's only going to get harder.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:36 PM
 
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I take my chances with a sales job before going minimum or very low wage jobs.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:00 PM
 
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These hiring practices are often put in place by emotionless and out of touch CEOs who have no idea what John Q Unemployed has to deal with. And most of the time, it's not even a human being weeding the applicants out...it's a computer program designed to choose who is worthy enough for even an interview, depending on how the multiple choice bubbles are filled in. The hiring manager ONLY sees the application if you passed the initial screening tests. Why on earth do people need to explain the meaning of life, in order to be selected for a job interview, for a job stocking shelves or unloading a truck???

Oh, and then if you are one of the fortunate souls chosen for the coveted 20 hour a week position...in order to continue your employment, you have to "sell" so many company credit cards per week, or sign so many people up for other bogus "store rewards" programs. It's a sadistic game that corporations like to play with desperate and broke employees, in order to improve their bottom line. How many of us have been through the check stand at a department or grocery store and been hassled and begged to sign up for their credit cards?? There's a reason for this, and it's because that store employee is one card away from the unemployment line.

So I agree. The days of walking into a store or restaurant, talking to a manager/owner, and being hired right then and there...over.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:49 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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I'm amazed at how these applications and personality tests are. It's minimum wage for crying out loud.
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Old 07-01-2016, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Used to be, before 2000, a young man could get a manual labor job in construction earning the equivalent of $15/hr right out of high school but today those jobs are reserved for illegal aliens and I am not kidding either.

This is why we need to vote for Hillary so we don't have to do these icky hard work jobs.

And you think I'm kidding?
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