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"Hey stop hitting me. It says in the employee hand book that kicking someone in the head can get you written up!" LOL
No, I'd kick their ass.
As I would hypothetically be the victim, the company can't fire me or write me up for using self-defense (if the bully strikes me first). If they did (or tried to), I'd sue them.
If some "good samaritan" wants to join in and help me while putting their job on the line, good for them.
In any event, it's not about how others would handle their own situation, but how the OP handled the situation they faced.
Stop making America soft people, this is why the country is degrading into chaos. People who bully, or engage in thievery should be punished, not coddled.
This point got looked over. I agree 100% with this
But sadly many of them are coddled and kept on their jobs.
Report it and let the management handle it but make a note of what happened in case something happens in the future, you can site it as a recurring problem that is not being dealt with You can site it as a distraction from being able to work in a safe environment. Is this a hostile environment? Is there a pattern here and it's not recognized by management or has it not been reported until this escalated situation. You should have said nothing but reported it as a distraction to your rights to be in a bully free environment free from hostility and repercussions for reporting or reprisal.
Is this a hostile environment? Is there a pattern here and it's not recognized by management or has it not been reported until this escalated situation. You should have said nothing but reported it as a distraction to your rights to be in a bully free environment free from hostility and repercussions for reporting or reprisal.
That is my point exactly. Why has this person been allowed to have been a bully in the first place? I don't care if they "might" have been afraid of what he would do. Excuses doesn't solve the problem. The point is WHY has it been allowed up to this point? Management should have done something long ago. You just don't allow problems like bullying to fester.
Management in this case should be the ones to get the pink slip.
Actually, the OP never provided the timeline. I asked several pages back in order to provide some fairness to the OP, but so far, we don't know if it was a heat of the moment reaction or if the "let's step outside" was the OP's way of acting tough.
As an employer, incident like these can never be taken in a vacuum. We can't just set a rule and follow it without examining the events. The initial aggressor will be held accountable for their actions, and the response of the victim will be examined. Others will need to show some immediate need since most times it’s not an immediate heat of the moment response but rather some "Me Macho Man" response.
The OP needs to explain the timing of all this.
It WAS a heat of the moment reaction. Soon as I saw this I stepped up. Two other ppl got in between and separated us. I gotta admit, I was ready to swing. By not doing so, I keep my job. The assailant was fired, I found out, and when bailed out of jail was given a RO (Restraining Order): if ever found on the premises, he goes right back to jail.
It WAS a heat of the moment reaction. Soon as I saw this I stepped up. Two other ppl got in between and separated us. I gotta admit, I was ready to swing. By not doing so, I keep my job. The assailant was fired, I found out, and when bailed out of jail was given a RO (Restraining Order): if ever found on the premises, he goes right back to jail.
Good. As he should have been. And probably long before this incident.
The other day I saw a co-worker punched by a bully co-worker. Well, I HATE bullies and the assault was reported, but then I in my anger stepped up and challenged the bully to "step outside and see me!" Now, my boss, and my boss's boss, put me on blast. How the hell could this be when I was NOT the one who caused the problem?
Sounds about right. Now you are a liability and will likely be let go. it may not happen tomorrow and it won't be directly linked to this event, but it will be behind the decision.
I just don't get people who can't control their temper and always resort to violence. It will never end well and its a weak spot that other people can take advantage of to get a reaction from you.
No you wouldn't. Self defense usually heads to no charges in the US.
You're scenario does not relate to this thread at all. No one was assaulting the op.
People are empowered to use force to defend people other than themselves. You know this, right?
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