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Old 11-13-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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When everyone is poor, nobody is able to give, no matter how hard you whinne.
Many companies are taking their responsiblilities. They are hiring people. They just cannot hire extra, espeically when the government tries to redistribute their profit in the name of social justice. The companies not only have to deal with the government, the unions, but also their global cometitors. Everybody wants a spoon of share from their bowl. Their producing costs are way too high. They are weak competitors on a global market. Weaker and weaker competitors they become, less and less jobs they can offer.
A lot of people, they never understand other people's businesses and how wealth is produced, but they are good at issuing, forcing their own opinions on other people, and pointing their fingures at other people.
I don't blame you for this. How far you can see, how far you can go. If you could see further, probably you have already walked further.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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I don't know what's worse. Incompetent employers, or a government that refuses to do anything.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Holland
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I don't know what's worse. Incompetent employers, or a government that refuses to do anything.
I can tell you what is worse, incompetent job seekers who only complain and refuse to do anything to remedy their situation.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I can tell you what is worse, incompetent job seekers who only complain and refuse to do anything to remedy their situation.
If he was as good at diligently searching for opportunities as he is whining and complaining, he wouldn't have a need to whine and complain.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:03 AM
 
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I'm at it every day. There's only so much I can do.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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I'm at it every day. There's only so much I can do.
Yet you're home at 9AM...
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Petticoat Junction
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I'm at it every day. There's only so much I can do.
That's what the Obamacare website designer says....
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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I don't know what's worse. Incompetent employers, or a government that refuses to do anything.
The government is doing plenty, unfortunately it is a bunch of idealists with little to no practical experience with running a business, and have no idea what they are doing, which means many of the things they are doing to supposedly help (I do not agree with much of what they are doing but that is a different board) actually does not help businesses, and the unintended consequences are ignored, actually making things worse.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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You may not owe me a job, but society sure as heck does. How will I eat, clothe and house myself? Oh yeah, there's the government to help folks like me. That's all fine and dandy until people like you start b*tching about how your taxes go to support deadbeats like me - one only has to look at the bitter political divide in this country today to see how that's panning out. So, either way, you've gotta pay the price to ensure social justice. Either hire one or two people out of fifty or a hundred that really could use a job, and prevent those people from going on the dole, or put us "undesirables" out on the street, leaving us *no choice* but to get the government to support us. The government then turns to you, the one with money, and takes it and gives it to people like me. Is that's what you really want? If so, that's great, as that's exactly what you'll get. And eventually, as time goes on, we'll be living in a Marxist paradise, it'll be fine and dandy for me, as I'm used to being poor, but "productive" folks like you aren't gonna be liking it too much, I don't think.

Really, the choice (collectively) is yours. Start hiring, hire big, and hire generously, and turn this country around, or just go on being uber-picky and stingy as all-get out, making communism look more and more attractive to the rest of us. Again, the choice is yours...
Bravo for that bolded statement.

And I wanna call out these businesses that constantly bring in record profits, and CEOs/Presidents getting raises, but yet you cut wages, benefits, hours, and even jobs from your own company and you wanna use that tired excuse "we're rewiring for growth." BS. Taking from your drastically less paid workers while constantly "tipping" yourself is the worst kind of socialism there is. Yeah how about that word you love to regurgitate conservatives, socialism! The lazy single mother with kids, a new car, and an iphone gets picked on because she's collecting food stamps with your tax dollars, but you haven't stopped to think that maybe she wouldn't be in that situation if someone else took from her! Let's pick on the poor and the so-called lazy people because it's the easy thing to do rather than put these corporate executives on notice. But you don't wanna put them on notice because being a kiss up and saying "yes-suh boss, no-suh boss" is more important to you.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Bravo for that bolded statement.

And I wanna call out these businesses that constantly bring in record profits, and CEOs/Presidents getting raises, but yet you cut wages, benefits, hours, and even jobs from your own company and you wanna use that tired excuse "we're rewiring for growth." BS. Taking from your drastically less paid workers while constantly "tipping" yourself is the worst kind of socialism there is. Yeah how about that word you love to regurgitate conservatives, socialism! The lazy single mother with kids, a new car, and an iphone gets picked on because she's collecting food stamps with your tax dollars, but you haven't stopped to think that maybe she wouldn't be in that situation if someone else took from her! Let's pick on the poor and the so-called lazy people because it's the easy thing to do rather than put these corporate executives on notice. But you don't wanna put them on notice because being a kiss up and saying "yes-suh boss, no-suh boss" is more important to you.

That is the problem, it is not socialism, corporations are run to make a profit, the CEOs pay is often based on the bottom line, they are not in existence to take car of you
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