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Old 02-28-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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There's no skills shortage. If this was the case, there wouldn't be so much unemployed skilled workers.


The Fake Skills Shortage - NYTimes.com
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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There's no skills shortage. If this was the case, there wouldn't be so much unemployed skilled workers.


The Fake Skills Shortage - NYTimes.com
The article Krugman linked to by Adam Davidson is also interesting:

Skills Don’t Pay the Bills
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/ma...-bills.html?hp

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As the instructor Joseph Goldenberg explained, today’s skilled factory worker is really a hybrid of an old-school machinist and a computer programmer. Goldenberg’s intro class starts with the basics of how to use cutting tools to shape a raw piece of metal. Then the real work begins: students learn to write the computer code that tells a machine how to do it much faster.

The secret behind this skills gap is that it’s not a skills gap at all. I spoke to several other factory managers who also confessed that they had a hard time recruiting in-demand workers for $10-an-hour jobs.

“Trying to hire high-skilled workers at rock-bottom rates,” the Boston Group study asserted, “is not a skills gap.”
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:23 PM
 
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Indeed. I agree that the problem is likely that companies are just not willing to pay the right price for what they are demanding of their workforce. But of course, if the corporate hacks have their way, they will hammer us into believing that we are all only worth $12/hr.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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Indeed. I agree that the problem is likely that companies are just not willing to pay the right price for what they are demanding of their workforce. But of course, if the corporate hacks have their way, they will hammer us into believing that we are all only worth $12/hr.

All while they rake seven and eight figure bonuses.
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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All while they rake seven and eight figure bonuses.
And that's alright, because they've persuaded us that A) they are worth it (we're not OTOH) and B) the company would be nothing without their highly desirable talents. OTOH, we are told and treated as if we are disposable cogs in the machine. And eventually, when we allow it to go on for a long period of time, we will start believing the same.
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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Hopefully Obama and members of Congress read this before they push ahead with proposals to increase the widely abused H-1B visa program. Then again, it probably wouldn't make a difference as I recall the instance when Obama told a woman that he couldn't believe that her unemployed engineer husband couldn't find work.
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Hopefully Obama and members of Congress read this before they push ahead with proposals to increase the widely abused H-1B visa program. Then again, it probably wouldn't make a difference as I recall the instance when Obama told a woman that he couldn't believe that her unemployed engineer husband couldn't find work.
I don't think they care enough, at least not for our sake. They care about their jobs, of course, but that can be easily dealt with by manipulating data, throwing out clever talking points for the party-loyalists to regurgitate, or avoiding the discussion altogether (hey, let's talk about gay marriage instead).
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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It seems the places that pay well and treat their employees well don't have a problem finding and keeping skilled workers.

Why do you think that is ?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SARC
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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On the mark, there is no shortage. I know people in many so called "job skills shortage" fields unable to find work. These are scientists, medical people, teachers, engineers, lawyers and so many more. Employers are paying ridiculous salaries like $10 but requiring masters degrees and several skills. Then when people balk at this they say there are no people willing to make it so they bring in visaed workers. It's disgusting and needs to stop but doubt it will with this congress and administration.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:03 AM
 
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Why go into STEM? Hard work, no chicks.

Law/business has the babes and the bucks.
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