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I went to the Keweenaw in July, which was torn up a 100 years ago do to unrestricted mining, and the workers had to work in hellish conditions for slave wages while the fatcats in Boston counted the the loot that was extracted from what was one of the wildest and most untamed places in the US. Of course now, 100 years later, the Keweenaw is paradise once again, although there are still problems with toxic waste, etc.
So yeah, I'd rather for there not to be any mining, at least near where I live...lol.
or today see mountaintop removal in West Virginia and nearby coal country:
No clue why that should be permitted. Locals are desperate for jobs and mining is part of their culture. Short term gain, gone for forever, at least in human terms.
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Originally Posted by B87
I don't like anyone who is anti-mining. Most of them just see to be a bunch of misanthrope environmentalists (I have no problem with conservationists) who will happily prevent human advancement.
Likely the people who are anti-mining don't equate mining = good for humans and either:
1) Have little connection or knowledge of resource extraction industries
2) Seen a lot of negative effects of mining
On the flip side, fuel prices here are cheaper compared to most other 1st world countries. Petrol costs about $1.30-$1.50 a litre (compared to $2+ in Europe and $2.15-2.35 in NZ) with Norway charging in excess of 1.9 euro ($2.8), how the hell people drive there is beyond me. Check it out http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/ At that price it would cost me $170 to fill my 60 litre tank. Jesus christ!!!!!!
LPG is currently going for 68c / litre (in NZ it is anywhere from $1.00 to as high as $1.73) and in Europe LPG seems to be in excess of 0.80 euros a litre up to 1.2 euros in places like Denmark (which would be $1.15-1.7). My car runs on LPG, it cost me about $35 to fill the 60 litre tank and lasts me a good 8 days commuting to and from work.
Last edited by Full Overcast; 09-08-2013 at 08:49 AM..
No clue why that should be permitted. Locals are desperate for jobs and mining is part of their culture. Short term gain, gone for forever, at least in human terms.
Likely the people who are anti-mining don't equate mining = good for humans and either:
1) Have little connection or knowledge of resource extraction industries
2) Seen a lot of negative effects of mining
Thats pathetic. They are basically flattening the land.
Happy that I've found a new geeky hobby - I was curious to see what the averages are for Swedish cities during 1981-2010. SMHI don't publish them, but I can actually use weatheronline's climate robot to see what the averages are between 1982-2010. I'm currently looking at Sundsvall.
obviously you care about yours enough to call my $397 android phone a piece of crap compared to your Iphone
No, if I didn't have my iphone I could survive and would not really care.
But if I was to buy a phone thats what i'd pick.
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