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If there is stratisopheric warming events now, it may indeed mean a colder winter ahead.....
Here is the JMA for December.... Looks pretty cold for the eastern US
Waiting for their latest update. This was put out a month ago.
I haven't been following the trends of the long range stuff. Has it been showing more cold in the East consistently or has it been flip flopping a lot.
The hardest to forecast is when they just flip flop warm/cold. But when there's more consistency of one way or another, its good to place bets on that.
Bastardi has had this forecast out since April.... Let see if he will be right (again) about the upcoming winter
CFS SST forecast for Dec-Feb
If such a forecast does verify I think I will be relocating back to my state of origin, hint: the gulf coast. That anomaly has indiana getting the worst of the cold to be Frank with you I don't think I could take a winter worse than this past winter.
If such a forecast does verify I think I will be relocating back to my state of origin, hint: the gulf coast. That anomaly has indiana getting the worst of the cold to be Frank with you I don't think I could take a winter worse than this past winter.
Whoa, it looks like portions of the gulf states took a beating during the winter of 2009/2010, can't really tell the anomaly intensity all that well for 2002/2003 but I know that winter in Indianapolis saw 46.9 inches of snow and the coldest low temperature was -9 degrees Fahrenheit below zero, 2009/2010 if I recall correctly saw extreme morning lows that never even went below zero degrees and saw 33 inches of snowfall from December through February good for the 9th snowiest winter of record while 2002/2003 was the 4th snowiest on record, either way neither one of those winters were as severe as last winter was here in indianapolis, this year the coldest it got down to was -15 degrees Fahrenheit, the coldest reading indianapolis has seen since the historic arctic blast of January 19th, 1994, when indianapolis fell to -27 degrees Fahrenheit, and also the -15 degree reading was a few degrees colder than the 12 below reading seen just 5 years earlier in the winter of 2008/2009. thanks for your additional input, also kast winter was the 8th coldest in addition to being the snowiest on modern record, the winter of 1976-1977 is indianapolis's coldest winter on record, if I'm not mistaken I hear the Chicago land area had their 3rd coldest winter on record last winter and that the winter of 1903-1904 is the coldest winter on modern record for Chicago. Thank you for your additional and informative input. For your information the top 10 coldest wintersof record in indy are as follows
1st 1976-1977: 20.7 F
2nd 1977-1978: 21.8 F
3rd 1962-1963: 22.0 F
4th 1917-1918: 22.8 F
5th 1935-1936: 23.2 F
6th 1903-1904: 23.5 F
7th 1978-1979: 23.8 F
8th 2013-2014: 24.2 F
9th 1904-1905: 24.3 F
10th 1884-1885: 24.3 F
sources: national weather service forecast office indianapolis
Whoa, it looks like portions of the gulf states took a beating during the winter of 2009/2010, can't really tell the anomaly intensity all that well for 2002/2003 but I know that winter in Indianapolis saw 46.9 inches of snow and the coldest low temperature was -9 degrees Fahrenheit below zero, 2009/2010 if I recall correctly saw extreme morning lows that never even went below zero degrees and saw 33 inches of snowfall from December through February good for the 9th snowiest winter of record while 2002/2003 was the 4th snowiest on record, either way neither one of those winters were as severe as last winter was here in indianapolis, this year the coldest it got down to was -15 degrees Fahrenheit, the coldest reading indianapolis has seen since the historic arctic blast of January 19th, 1994, when indianapolis fell to -27 degrees Fahrenheit, and also the -15 degree reading was a few degrees colder than the 12 below reading seen just 5 years earlier in the winter of 2008/2009. thanks for your additional input, also kast winter was the 8th coldest in addition to being the snowiest on modern record, the winter of 1976-1977 is indianapolis's coldest winter on record, if I'm not mistaken I hear the Chicago land area had their 3rd coldest winter on record last winter and that the winter of 1903-1904 is the coldest winter on modern record for Chicago. Thank you for your additional and informative input. For your information the top 10 coldest wintersof record in indy are as follows
1st 1976-1977: 20.7 F
2nd 1977-1978: 21.8 F
3rd 1962-1963: 22.0 F
4th 1917-1918: 22.8 F
5th 1935-1936: 23.2 F
6th 1903-1904: 23.5 F
7th 1978-1979: 23.8 F
8th 2013-2014: 24.2 F
9th 1904-1905: 24.3 F
10th 1884-1885: 24.3 F
sources: national weather service forecast office indianapolis
Interesting thanks for the data. It's going to be very hard for any winter to match up to the winter of 2013-14. I don't think this winter will be as extreme. However, there are signals that that it might still be colder than averages.
Interesting thanks for the data. It's going to be very hard for any winter to match up to the winter of 2013-14. I don't think this winter will be as extreme. However, there are signals that that it might still be colder than averages.
Well one of the analog years I heard mentioned was 1976-77. That winter would blow last winter out of the water, at least in my area. Not sure about Chicago though.
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thanks for your additional input, also kast winter was the 8th coldest in addition to being the snowiest on modern record, the winter of 1976-1977 is indianapolis's coldest winter on record, if I'm not mistaken I hear the Chicago land area had their 3rd coldest winter on record last winter and that the winter of 1903-1904 is the coldest winter on modern record for Chicago. Thank you for your additional and informative input. For your information the top 10 coldest wintersof record in indy are as follows
