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No, I get it. The Stewart/Colbert team is responding to the Beck rally and the absurd level of media attention that was heaped onto the Tea Party movement. Someone needs to answer the conspiracy theory crap espoused by Tea Party protesters and like. The bigoted fearmongering coming from The Right is getting ridiculous.
However, I don't like the idea of painting more conservative or more left-wing activists as "crazies". Last time I checked, the Tea Party is not calling the shots in Congress or in the White House. I don't see the Communist Party pulling Obama's strings. It's the "sensible" middle that holds sway over our political system and the corporate-owned media. You want "crazy"? How about sending our soldiers to die and reading about the death of innocent civilians in Afghanistan. Or giving billions of dollars of bailouts to Wall Street banks with FEW or no strings attached while the unemployment rate continues to surge. Or keeping the unconstitutional Patriot Act alive while our military and intelligence agencies continue to implement physical torture on detainees. That's insane. Our so-called "moderate" leaders are legislating and executing INSANE policies.
And how much noise has The Left orchestrated against Obama or the federal government? You wouldn't know it because the corporate media pays no attention to leftist organizations or their protests. The 9/11 conspiracy crap has been debunked years ago and you don't hear many Lefties crowing about the "inside-job" theory anymore. So what is Stewart's and Colbert's beef with the American Left??????
What do the Stewart and Colbert rallies achieve in the end? To paint the Tea Party people as a bunch of gun-toting, Bible-thumping, Constitution-Humping lunatics who don't represent the majority of the American people? Well, there's no need for a rally because most people in this country don't support the Teabaggers and their message. The Tea Party has not gained much traction among independent voters and even rank & file Republicans are pushing back against the Tea Party faithful.
Are the dual rallies on October 30 meant to shore up support for Obama and the Democratic-majority Congress? Perhaps and this is why I argue that Stewart and Colbert are rallying for the status quo. Rallying for "sensibility" is the same message as rallying for Obama and incumbent Democratic politicians. End of story.
Hey, I hope the Stewart/Colbert mall rallies attract double or triple the size of the Glenn Beck Neo-Fascist rally. This will make the Tea Party people eat some humble pie. But you must realize that there is a partisan angle coming from the Comedy Central event. For that reason, I will stay home on October 30.
No, you're confusing adherence to the status quo with an effort to solve our problems through reasonable discussion that acknowledges there's valuable ideas across the political spectrum. Very different.
You have completely missed the point. Both extremes are bad for this country and you are a perfect example of one of these extremes
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Originally Posted by coldbliss
No, I get it. The Stewart/Colbert team is responding to the Beck rally and the absurd level of media attention that was heaped onto the Tea Party movement. Someone needs to answer the conspiracy theory crap espoused by Tea Party protesters and like. The bigoted fearmongering coming from The Right is getting ridiculous.
However, I don't like the idea of painting more conservative or more left-wing activists as "crazies". Last time I checked, the Tea Party is not calling the shots in Congress or in the White House. I don't see the Communist Party pulling Obama's strings. It's the "sensible" middle that holds sway over our political system and the corporate-owned media. You want "crazy"? How about sending our soldiers to die and reading about the death of innocent civilians in Afghanistan. Or giving billions of dollars of bailouts to Wall Street banks with FEW or no strings attached while the unemployment rate continues to surge. Or keeping the unconstitutional Patriot Act alive while our military and intelligence agencies continue to implement physical torture on detainees. That's insane. Our so-called "moderate" leaders are legislating and executing INSANE policies.
And how much noise has The Left orchestrated against Obama or the federal government? You wouldn't know it because the corporate media pays no attention to leftist organizations or their protests. The 9/11 conspiracy crap has been debunked years ago and you don't hear many Lefties crowing about the "inside-job" theory anymore. So what is Stewart's and Colbert's beef with the American Left??????
What do the Stewart and Colbert rallies achieve in the end? To paint the Tea Party people as a bunch of gun-toting, Bible-thumping, Constitution-Humping lunatics who don't represent the majority of the American people? Well, there's no need for a rally because most people in this country don't support the Teabaggers and their message. The Tea Party has not gained much traction among independent voters and even rank & file Republicans are pushing back against the Tea Party faithful.
Are the dual rallies on October 30 meant to shore up support for Obama and the Democratic-majority Congress? Perhaps and this is why I argue that Stewart and Colbert are rallying for the status quo. Rallying for "sensibility" is the same message as rallying for Obama and incumbent Democratic politicians. End of story.
Hey, I hope the Stewart/Colbert mall rallies attract double or triple the size of the Glenn Beck Neo-Fascist rally. This will make the Tea Party people eat some humble pie. But you must realize that there is a partisan angle coming from the Comedy Central event. For that reason, I will stay home on October 30.
No, I get it. The Stewart/Colbert team is responding to the Beck rally and the absurd level of media attention that was heaped onto the Tea Party movement. Someone needs to answer the conspiracy theory crap espoused by Tea Party protesters and like. The bigoted fearmongering coming from The Right is getting ridiculous.
However, I don't like the idea of painting more conservative or more left-wing activists as "crazies". Last time I checked, the Tea Party is not calling the shots in Congress or in the White House. I don't see the Communist Party pulling Obama's strings. It's the "sensible" middle that holds sway over our political system and the corporate-owned media. You want "crazy"? How about sending our soldiers to die and reading about the death of innocent civilians in Afghanistan. Or giving billions of dollars of bailouts to Wall Street banks with FEW or no strings attached while the unemployment rate continues to surge. Or keeping the unconstitutional Patriot Act alive while our military and intelligence agencies continue to implement physical torture on detainees. That's insane. Our so-called "moderate" leaders are legislating and executing INSANE policies.
And how much noise has The Left orchestrated against Obama or the federal government? You wouldn't know it because the corporate media pays no attention to leftist organizations or their protests. The 9/11 conspiracy crap has been debunked years ago and you don't hear many Lefties crowing about the "inside-job" theory anymore. So what is Stewart's and Colbert's beef with the American Left??????
What do the Stewart and Colbert rallies achieve in the end? To paint the Tea Party people as a bunch of gun-toting, Bible-thumping, Constitution-Humping lunatics who don't represent the majority of the American people? Well, there's no need for a rally because most people in this country don't support the Teabaggers and their message. The Tea Party has not gained much traction among independent voters and even rank & file Republicans are pushing back against the Tea Party faithful.
Are the dual rallies on October 30 meant to shore up support for Obama and the Democratic-majority Congress? Perhaps and this is why I argue that Stewart and Colbert are rallying for the status quo. Rallying for "sensibility" is the same message as rallying for Obama and incumbent Democratic politicians. End of story.
Hey, I hope the Stewart/Colbert mall rallies attract double or triple the size of the Glenn Beck Neo-Fascist rally. This will make the Tea Party people eat some humble pie. But you must realize that there is a partisan angle coming from the Comedy Central event. For that reason, I will stay home on October 30.
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Originally Posted by movedoften
It is actually a mock reaction to everything extreme, left and right. That includes people like Keith Olberman, Ed from the Ed show, Glenn Beck, Rush, etc. along with others on both sides who don't seem to be able to process and reconcile information with an ounce of objectivity. My favorite was the sign John Stewart produced that said (paraphrasing) " I don't happen to agree with you but I am pretty sure you aren't Hitler".
I realize that Stewart and Colbert are mocking the Left and Right and we need to get away from conspiracy theory garbage and "the close your ears and shout out loud" approach to politics.
You post that "extremes are bad for this country". Great. How would you know this? How do you define an extremist? If someone was a partisan or had an idea that was so foreign to you, you would bother to listen to that person or would you ignore him because he is an "extremist" you can't think sanely?
We had some pretty impressive "extremists" in American history. Even though you are a Canadian, you might have heard about them. They didn't have "reasonable discussions" with their counterparts. They had beliefs and used their convictions to make the world a better place.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Cesar Chavez
Ralph Nader
Thomas Paine
William Lloyd Garrison and leaders of the Abolitionist Movement against slavery.
Rachel Carson
Leaders of the Granger Movement
Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his New Deal reforms were considered "radical" and "extreme" at the time.
The first leaders of trade unions who demanded the end to child labor, better working conditions, better pay and shorter work weeks.
Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony and other leaders of the women's rights movement.
The people who opposed them were not in the business of "reasonable discussion" and these activists realized that "reasonable discussion" will not get them very far in the end.
So thanks for labeling me as an "extremist" because I have some good historical company on my side.
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Originally Posted by Canuckindc
You have completely missed the point. Both extremes are bad for this country and you are a perfect example of one of these extremes
My whole family's flying in from Texas. Always wanted to show my children their beautiful nation's capital! This is the icing on the cake for us. America, my home sweet home.
I agree with coldbliss. The so called "radicals" on the left are the people who shaped this country into what made it great.
Status quo is not an acceptable alternative.
Nobody is arguing the status quo is acceptable, least of all Colbert and Stewart. They have been pushing against it for many years now. Coldbliss is just fundamentally missing their satirical objective and arguing a separate point.
I'll be there! It's the weekend before my birthday. I want to take our great nation back from the fringe lunatics who are hopping onto a bandwagon many seem to have done very little research into. The fact that this "mosque" in NYC has become such a huge issue, along with the sad reality that so many in America still think Obama is a Muslim thanks to Faux News makes my blood boil.
If you believe that you do not have rights bestowed by your Creator, but only the privileges bestowed by government, then you'll feel right at home.
If you think that "Thou shalt not steal" excludes the government, you're an ideal candidate for a job with BHO's administration.
If you think that a majority can deprive a minority, via democracy, well - you've come a long way...
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It's the weekend before my birthday. I want to take our great nation back from the fringe lunatics who are hopping onto a bandwagon many seem to have done very little research into. The fact that this "mosque" in NYC has become such a huge issue, along with the sad reality that so many in America still think Obama is a Muslim thanks to Faux News makes my blood boil.
