Is the National Harbor a National Letdown? (Potomac, Hagerstown: townhouses, neighborhood)

[ATL_II_DMV]

Originally Posted by $mk8795

I do agree with what you are stating but can you explain how Alexandria and Arlington is able to maintain Upscale Retail Growth, Tourism, and Office Tower Density integrated with Rapid Transit of Subways and Buses(local and Commuter)?????????

Tysons Corner is building 4 Major Subway Rail Stations along with Widening I-495 to 12 Lanes including Toll Lanes and for some reason I believe Tysons Corner(I & II) will continue to survive well after the Subway and Highway Projects are completed...........

Right, Subways and public access don't kill an area.

Hell, Foggy Bottom in DC has subway access and you don't see that area going to shreds.

It's all about how you market an area that will determine the type of people you attract

[$mk8795]

Originally Posted by ATL_II_DMV

Right, Subways and public access don't kill an area.

Hell, Foggy Bottom in DC has subway access and you don't see that area going to shreds.

It's all about how you market an area that will determine the type of people you attract

Thats why the Blvd. @ Largo Town Centre is a Failure due to the powers that be not pushing for the Tysons Corner Style Development that includes a two level upscale mall that will totally made up for the demise of the Landover Mall.......

[ATL_II_DMV]

True, so many buisnesses closing down at the Cap Center.

I know they don't want to spend high in a not-so-rich market (Largo), but there is money in Largo.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by ATL_II_DMV

True, so many buisnesses closing down at the Cap Center.

I know they don't want to spend high in a not-so-rich market (Largo), but there is money in Largo.

I don't think the money is really an issue with The Blvd. It has to do with the crime and the clientele. The Blvd has had several killings, rashes of stolen vehicles and little to no police presence until last year when they FINALLY put a substation there. People aren't going to shop where they don't feel safe. The shopping center also has no identity. It's like they tried to cater to everyone, but it doesn't work. There are way too many teen bopper stores, to attract young families. If you don't want to scare off that clientele, then you have to limit the stores that attract the wrong crowds. It seems if you're not going to one of the restaurants there, then there isn't a whole lot of reason to be there unless you're a teenager.

Overall PG is just horrible at planning developments. Most shopping centers are repetitive. It seems like most of them has some combination of a liquor store, chinese food restaurant, cleaners, or nail shop/beauty supply store. Everytime they build shopping centers like this, they are bound to attract a certain clientele. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all of these are bad, but do we really need these at every shopping center?

[btsilver]

I noticed that too. Liquor store, chinese food, cleaners, and nail/beauty supply store. Its always this combination. But hey commercial realtors need tenants and if no one else is renting the place these will always pop up and they are easy money. I think those have to be the easiest businesses to start and maintain.

[ajsmith365]

I am proud to say I was right in regards to the National Harbor, as they have recently announced they are collaborating with Tanger to bring an outlet mall there in 2013 (will probably be more like 2018). Article is here National Harbor lands Tanger Outlet Center | Washington Business Journal and here Outlet center to come to National Harbor complex - The Washington Post

I would like to think that I had something to do with this. As some who have been on this thread know I approached several of the store owners there and one even participated in this thread. Also, I caught the eye of the corporate office of the Peterson Cos. and reiterated my gripes with their development. And, after watching Channel 7 News, today (5/23/2011), my same points were reiterated by several NH patrons of all demographics. Although the Peterson Cos. wants to partially blame the economy, they had bigger issues than that. Everyone loves brand-recognizable stores, tennis shoes, and reasonably-priced stores. I welcome the addition and am glad I could be a part of the catalyst that brought about this change. Now, on to fight #2, the parking issue @ NH.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by ajsmith365

I am proud to say I was right in regards to the National Harbor, as they have recently announced they are collaborating with Tanger to bring an outlet mall there in 2013 (will probably be more like 2018). Article is here National Harbor lands Tanger Outlet Center | Washington Business Journal and here Outlet center to come to National Harbor complex - The Washington Post

I would like to think that I had something to do with this. As some who have been on this thread know I approached several of the store owners there and one even participated in this thread. Also, I caught the eye of the corporate office of the Peterson Cos. and reiterated my gripes with their development. And, after watching Channel 7 News, today (5/23/2011), my same points were reiterated by several NH patrons of all demographics. Although the Peterson Cos. wants to partially blame the economy, they had bigger issues than that. Everyone loves brand-recognizable stores, tennis shoes, and reasonably-priced stores. I welcome the addition and am glad I could be a part of the catalyst that brought about this change. Now, on to fight #2, the parking issue @ NH.

That's good news, but instead of fixing parking, they need to start with fixing the school system.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by ajsmith365

I am proud to say I was right in regards to the National Harbor, as they have recently announced they are collaborating with Tanger to bring an outlet mall there in 2013 (will probably be more like 2018). Article is here National Harbor lands Tanger Outlet Center | Washington Business Journal and here Outlet center to come to National Harbor complex - The Washington Post

I would like to think that I had something to do with this. As some who have been on this thread know I approached several of the store owners there and one even participated in this thread. Also, I caught the eye of the corporate office of the Peterson Cos. and reiterated my gripes with their development. And, after watching Channel 7 News, today (5/23/2011), my same points were reiterated by several NH patrons of all demographics. Although the Peterson Cos. wants to partially blame the economy, they had bigger issues than that. Everyone loves brand-recognizable stores, tennis shoes, and reasonably-priced stores. I welcome the addition and am glad I could be a part of the catalyst that brought about this change. Now, on to fight #2, the parking issue @ NH.

Will folks pay for parking to go to an Outlet Mall?

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

Will folks pay for parking to go to an Outlet Mall?

Yes.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

Will folks pay for parking to go to an Outlet Mall?

No.