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Old 09-22-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You missed the point! Sure "horrible things can happen anywhere". But the rape I described happened in Chicago, in a very-low income neighborhood. (Is that PC enough?) The school of nursing revised its policy so that student nurses traveled in pairs after that.
And your point? The girl that was raped and murdered happened in a low crime white middle class suburban neighborhood. Thus horrible things could happen anywhere. It is a good thing the school changed their policy, being proactive with safety is very smart.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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While the outer suburbs are still doing very well, a large amount of inner suburbs built usually from the 20s to the 60s are seeing the exact same patterns as inner cities were in the 50s and 60s, and I believe that this trend will continue until development is replaced with more urban development (they are unlikely to be gentrified because of their lack of quality, and amenities of old urban neighborhoods). However, while one day I think decay will hit the exurbs and outer suburbs like a train because of their unsustainable design, I have to disagree, and say that they are not going to be ghetto anytime soon.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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I love my suburban lifestyle.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:35 PM
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The probability of crime is what you can learn with how much crime actually happens. Safety is totally based off of people's perceptions, but it is common for people to confuse the two.
You mean like you confused "safe" (objective) with "feeling safe" (subjective).

Safe is not the same as feeling safe. A safe neighborhood is one that has a low crime rate. Brownsville, NY. Not safe.

A neighborhood you feel safe in - that could be any neigborhood. Including Brownsville, NY.

It is you who is confused about safe and feeling safe. You seem to think safe = feeling safe = subjective. safe not equal to feeling safe, although the two can overlap.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: MO->MI->CA->TX->MA
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I went to college in an urban area that isn't deemed very safe by many statistical measures and have never had anything happen to me in those 4 years.

A few years back, I also moved to a town on the top 100 Best Places to Live in 2011 with a crime rate far below average, and someone tried to incessantly open the front door to my apartment in the middle of the night within 1 month of me moving in.

Go figure..
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You mean like you confused "safe" (objective) with "feeling safe" (subjective).

Safe is not the same as feeling safe. A safe neighborhood is one that has a low crime rate. Brownsville, NY. Not safe.

A neighborhood you feel safe in - that could be any neigborhood. Including Brownsville, NY.

It is you who is confused about safe and feeling safe. You seem to think safe = feeling safe = subjective. safe not equal to feeling safe, although the two can overlap.
Yet crime can happen in "safe" neighborhoods.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:09 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Yet crime can happen in "safe" neighborhoods.
It is, however, less likely to occur. Which is what makes it a "safe" neighborhood.
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is, however, less likely to occur. Which is what makes it a "safe" neighborhood.
No, that makes the probability of a crime less likely to happen. No where in the world is ever really safe.
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Monmouth County, NJ & Staten Island, NY
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No, that makes the probability of a crime less likely to happen.
That's exactly what Nei just said.....
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That's exactly what Nei just said.....
That doesn't make a place safe because no where can be truly safe.
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