suburban public schools vs. city public schools (Dallas, property, community)
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I realize the problem with my post, I wasn't clear about my target audience. If you love the city, but don't care about the suburbs, but accept that people just may like the suburbs over the city, my post is not for you. My post is for the people, who just hate the suburbs and would celebrate if the suburbs disappeared tomorrow. I want them to justify why the suburbs are so terrible if the public school system is better in the suburbs than it is in the city.
I have yet to get a response where somebody agrees with me.
I live in suburb. I like urban living. My suburb is densely populated, has good transit, and easily walkable. If it weren't for my job, I'd probably live in the heart of Chicago. I find the more typical auto-centric suburb unpleasant. I'm about as pro-city as it gets, but I still understand why some/many parents choose to live in the suburbs (even the auto-centric ones). Its not a choice I would make, but then I have the ability to pay for private schools if necessary. I realize many families do not. Sometimes we have to make compromises for our kids.
I'm not sure why you're trying to seek out the small minority of irrational urbanists who blindly hate the suburbs. I'm sure they exist, but they're not very consequential.
I live in suburb. I like urban living. My suburb is densely populated, has good transit, and easily walkable. If it weren't for my job, I'd probably live in the heart of Chicago. I find the more typical auto-centric suburb unpleasant. I'm about as pro-city as it gets, but I still understand why some/many parents choose to live in the suburbs (even the auto-centric ones). Its not a choice I would make, but then I have the ability to pay for private schools if necessary. I realize many families do not. Sometimes we have to make compromises for our kids.
You understand why the suburbs may be a good place to live. I have no reason to debate you. You like the city, but understand why the suburbs maybe a good choice to live. Im looking to debate people, who tell me that the city is great, but have no answer for the school system.
You understand why the suburbs may be a good place to live. I have no reason to debate you. You like the city, but understand why the suburbs maybe a good choice to live. Im looking to debate people, who tell me that the city is great, but have no answer for the school system.
I'm sorry everyone who replied to you is being reasonable. I'm not sure why you're seeking out unreasonable people to debate, but I hope you find what you're looking for.
I'm sorry everyone who replied to you is being reasonable. I'm not sure why you're seeking out unreasonable people to debate, but I hope you find what you're looking for.
I'm not seeking out unreasonable people. I'm seeking out people who come on this forum and will give reasons for why the suburbs are a terrible place to live. I'm just simply asking if the suburbs are so terrible, why is it that the suburbs may offerr better educational opportunites than the city. I'm trying to get pro-city to admit that living in an urban enviroment may not be the best thing for alot of people and that the suburbs may offer something better. You seem to be the only person who will offer me some type answer to my question. I applaud you for that, but nobody is willing to step up and answer my question. I'm not giving some unreasonable senario, just answer the question, why is the city a great place to live, if there are people who believe the suburbs give their kids better education opportunities.
This is the issue, I want people, WHO JUST HATE THE SUBURBZS in general to answer the question. I can't afford private school or catholic schools. Why is the city so great and the suburbs are terrible if I have kids?
Sunset in San Francisco has very good schools, and houses are in the high 500 range. You have to go pretty far out to commute hell to beat the Sunset's schools for the money. Your "flee for the suburbs" suburbs are all brushing if not stampeding over the million dollar price tag.
Dublin and Livermore are a hell of a commute, and you really do have to go that far to get good schools for less real estate dollars. And have you been to Dublin? It's... uncreative, dull, middle-management corporate drones. Hell, I'm basically an uncreative corporate drone, and it even scares me. I'd really rather my kid not grow up in that environment. It's too white padded walls and bubble wrap.
Not that cities are perfect by any means. Most of them are extremely poorly run and have their heads screwed on backwards. You have a lot of people who really do think there is value in raising kids in an urban environment, but given the state of the urban environment wouldn't have a family there. Money no object, I'd wander down to the Palo Alto area for schools. As much as Dublin isn't my cup of tea, private school really isn't either.
I have yet to get a response where somebody agrees with me.
Then that is YOUR fault for not seeing the words and putting the expressed statements together.
Maybe you should go back to that great school you laud so much... and get some remedial reading lessons?
I'm not giving some unreasonable senario, just answer the question, why is the city a great place to live, if there are people who believe the suburbs give their kids better education opportunities.
Well not everyone has kids, so the school quality is irrelevant to where they choose to live.
For what it's worth, I've met a number of people who went to city schools and did well. They had no issues with their high school and enjoyed where they grew up. Obviously, this isn't true of everyone in cities, but for some the city worked well for them and their education. And most cities have magnet schools. If the child can get into them, they're likely getting a better education than all but a few suburban kids. Top colleges get a lot of their student from city magnet schools.
And the quality difference between city and suburb schools may be exaggerated if the city has more kids that would tend to do poorly due to having families with a poor educational background (or interest). No, I won't criticize any moving from city to suburb because of schools, and I know city schools are generally worse, just the it might not be as big a difference as you think.
Well not everyone has kids, so the school quality is irrelevant to where they choose to live.
For what it's worth, I've met a number of people who went to city schools and did well. They had no issues with their high school and enjoyed where they grew up. Obviously, this isn't true of everyone in cities, but for some the city worked well for them and their education. And most cities have magnet schools. If the child can get into them, they're likely getting a better education than all but a few suburban kids. Top colleges get a lot of their student from city magnet schools.
And the quality difference between city and suburb schools may be exaggerated if the city has more kids that would tend to do poorly due to having families with a poor educational background (or interest). No, I won't criticize any moving from city to suburb because of schools, and I know city schools are generally worse, just the it might not be as big a difference as you think.
I understand that people may not have kids, so the schools system is irrelevant. I asked this question because I see so many people bash the suburbs as this awful place, and I wanted to know why the city is so great if there are issues like the public school system that exist. The city has flaws and so do the suburbs. I wanted to get the point of view of people who hate the suburbs, and think the city is so much better. When I bring up the school system, i want pro-city to defend that issue. If you can't defend the issue, just understand the city is not the end all be all. You may know that the city may have its flaws, but I wanted people who have a disdain for the suburbs to defend this issue.
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