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Old 12-06-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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Can we band together and campaign for Ward's permanent death!?
I've already said a couple of times that I want him dead. That arc is done.
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:19 AM
 
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The problem with Ward is that the writers are simply crafting him as Generic Bad Guy. Snooze. Do something interesting with him or get rid of him.
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:25 AM
 
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The problem with Ward is that the writers are simply crafting him as Generic Bad Guy. Snooze. Do something interesting with him or get rid of him.
Actually, I've been reading some articles online that list Grant Ward as the second best Marvel villain overall, after Kilgrave from Jessica Jones. This is among all the movies and TV series' so far.
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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Actually, I've been reading some articles online that list Grant Ward as the second best Marvel villain overall, after Kilgrave from Jessica Jones. This is among all the movies and TV series' so far.
Nah. Kingpin, for one, was far superior to Grant Ward as a villain. Maybe they meant "Second best Marvel Television Villains on a Currently Running Series."
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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Actually, I've been reading some articles online that list Grant Ward as the second best Marvel villain overall, after Kilgrave from Jessica Jones. This is among all the movies and TV series' so far.
They must be watching a different show than I am then. I find Ward completely uninteresting. Ward wants to take down SHIELD and be an international power broker. Why? Ummm ... well, because that's what bad guys do, I guess.

For all of the things I enjoy about this show, the villains aren't one of them. Paper thin and uninteresting.
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Old 12-09-2015, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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"I'm on tatooine", best line of the show last night. And just when we had thought, had hoped Ward was dead...
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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"I'm on tatooine", best line of the show last night. And just when we had thought, had hoped Ward was dead...
I can't understand the series fixation on Ward as a character.
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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I've already said a couple of times that I want him dead. That arc is done.


I read your post before I watched last night and thought the same thing. Thought I got my wish.
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Old 12-10-2015, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Here&There
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Nah. Kingpin, for one, was far superior to Grant Ward as a villain. Maybe they meant "Second best Marvel Television Villains on a Currently Running Series."
Makes me wonder who they're polling?

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They must be watching a different show than I am then. I find Ward completely uninteresting. Ward wants to take down SHIELD and be an international power broker. Why? Ummm ... well, because that's what bad guys do, I guess.

For all of the things I enjoy about this show, the villains aren't one of them. Paper thin and uninteresting.
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"I'm on tatooine", best line of the show last night. And just when we had thought, had hoped Ward was dead...
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I read your post before I watched last night and thought the same thing. Thought I got my wish.
Damn. I was yelling at the screen, so many opportunities to kill him, until he finally did, ... until he came back. I had a nagging feeling that he wouldn't truly die.

I get it, stupid Hydra theme of the head just reappearing again and again but, I don't know, at a certain point it just gets to be lazy. Ward turning bad, then slightly more bad, and now EVIL! Christ. I guess technically he is dead but considering the actor who plays him has such limited range I doubt there will be any difference from trying-bad-guy to evil-incarnate-guy except maybe with more mascara. My patience is running thin with the show's team. I don't get it, Agent Carter is so good, so why?

I think I understand, Whedon's old team seem to be stuck in the 90s era of television writing. How many times did Buffy deal with Angelus, constant back and forth but for reasons I can't explain at the moment, I didn't mind it then as I do now. I guess I grew up.
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Well I found myself yelling at the tv, don't kill him. Although I guess in the end it wouldn't have mattered. I do like how they put it all together for you without having to spell it out. We learned earlier that the society kept sending people through the stone on a regular basis - now we know why. It needs bodies. And now we know why the hydra symbol is snakes coming out of a skull.


What I want to know is this (because I have never read the comics): did the snake thing needing a human host come from marvel first, or from Stargate SG1?
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