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Someone suggested in the comment section that the reason for less crime now than in the 90's was the internet revolution.
I was giving it some thought. Is crime going down, not because of the internet directly; but because of surveillance? Smarter 'smart' phones and more cameras everyplace has to make some difference. In the 90's it was still expensive and slow do take and send pictures. Our technology is constantly changing. It is hard to count the number of times every day that we are on camera and some criminals could think twice. Even if there are areas left, that do not have cameras; there is a good chance that a camera took your picture on the way to that isolated spot. It was pictures, taken from local businesses; that identified the car used in this crime.
Of course we have those that think they can put anything on the internet and nobody is watching. Anything posted on the internet is not just for your friends - big brother is watching. Programs that scan what is said or posted are also improving - just like the camera technology. Every comment, that the three made on the internet; can and will be used in court against them. The same thing could happen to us on this forum; if we were ever involved in a crime. Words are not always free - sometimes they come at a price.
Imagine how "boring" prison can be, especially if you have to spend the rest of your life there!
But they don't. They get out in less than 20 years after claiming they "found God" and convincing the prison shrinks they're rehabilitated and remorseful..... to prey on society again. They should be executed. This protects society from them forever.
You are right about the angry rap culture. That is true. Isn't it also true that Hollywood glorifies the rap crime scene. We went away for days at a time with the house unlocked and guns and ammo in the house and never missed a single bullet when we got home. That doesn't show in a statistic but it is a fact. The 1950 Chevy didn't need a key to drive and it seldom had on in it. I carried a knife in my pocket everyday in class. Most all boys did. They were tools not weapons then. The cut cabbage, broccoli, & rope in ag classes. I won a shotgun in a school competition. It was given to me at school. There had never been a know school shooting that we had ever heard of at that time. I don't know when the first one started. I remember when there were no safety seals on Tylenol until the Tylenol murders. So what does all this mean? People change. People and individuals have killed for centuries, so have tribes and nations. The simple truth is you can pass laws to punish those who do wrong but there is no way to make laws to prevent them from doing it and you can't take them off the street until they do. Guns don't kill people, people kill people for what ever reason they have on their mind at the moment and skin color is not an issue. One thing that I personally think adds to crime is the "I'm entitled" attitude many have. I want it and I want it know. No working for 50 years accumulating personal wealth. I point to the senseless killings over a pair of sports star endorsed shoes. The "I'm not flipping burgers, I'll just take a rich kids". The real truth is it is not going to get better. The current punish the victim to make it go easier on the villain is sickening will ensure that. My grand kids will never know the good times that I grew up under. I delivered newspapers at 5 AM in the pitch black dark in what would be thought of as a small town ghetto and there was never a concern for my safety. That's not the way it is now. It's my little abcdef would never have done that and they are a big part of the problem with the mindset that kills instead of a solution. It's a blame game world. The blame belongs on the trigger finger and not the trigger.
Normadicus,
I agree the world felt safer back then but I'm not sure the reason was that people felt less entitled. At least from what I have seen in other parts of the world it doesn't feel that way to me
I didn't grew up in the 60's but my parents did...in another country which later would be considered one of the most dangerous places in the world. I grew up in the 80's and I remember the early 80's being much safer also. My mother tells me she walked at night in dark desolated areas and was never a victim of any violent crime people back then didn't worry about being robbed or killed just for going to work
Then everything changed in the mid/late 80's and crime rose in many parts of the Americas. Things deteriorated extremely quickly. I don't think it's just the entitlement attitude because in my native country social programs were and still are very scare. Also because of Europe. Places I'm familiar with like Spain and Germany are very generous with the poor and many people in those countries don't usually question welfare programs. In places like Barcelona thieves are allowed to get away as long as they don't steal over $300. Yes there is petty theft there but violent crimes are much lower. Even though the thieves are basically allowed to steal they don't use violent force to do so. Homocide levels and violent crime are way below the American rates.
We also know it can't be just poverty, as Asia has some of the poorest nations and still have low crime rates
So what is it? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out. To me it seems to be a combination of easy access to drugs, glorified cultures of violence and more access to firearms. There are far more firearms on the streets now than back in the 60's. It is just much easier to commit a violent crime when you can use a gun than a pocket knife. The reason i said drugsis because I feel drug addiction seems to be so powerful that the addiction takes over the rational parts of the brain. Many people are willing to assault others and even kill just for drug money and if they can use a firearm for that even better
I'm neither an anti-gun liberal or a republican who believes drugs should be criminalized. I get a lot of crap from both parties not blindly believing in their parties. I'm an independent who is just trying to make sense of this screwed up world. We have more than enough now thanks to the advances in technology but it seems things are not getting better.
I love how people who present real facts are labeled racists by liberals and/or black people. real facts. not distorted ones, like the fluff I quoted above, that brainwashed and blind liberals spout off. I still can't believe he was trying to say white people glorify and take part in violence as much as Black people.
Since the country is 6% AA male yet the prisons are near 50% AA male you would think this is enough info to start to change things. You'd think they would get their collective house in order over this. You'd think there would be some shame involved too. Yet it's still the same, gimme gimme gimme is all they know.
So,since facts are facts,and stats are true,the overwhelming majority of child molesters are white men.
The majority of men who commit white collar crime are white males.
I was giving it some thought. Is crime going down, not because of the internet directly; but because of surveillance? Smarter 'smart' phones and more cameras everyplace has to make some difference. In the 90's it was still expensive and slow do take and send pictures. Our technology is constantly changing. It is hard to count the number of times every day that we are on camera and some criminals could think twice. Even if there are areas left, that do not have cameras; there is a good chance that a camera took your picture on the way to that isolated spot. It was pictures, taken from local businesses; that identified the car used in this crime.
Of course we have those that think they can put anything on the internet and nobody is watching. Anything posted on the internet is not just for your friends - big brother is watching. Programs that scan what is said or posted are also improving - just like the camera technology. Every comment, that the three made on the internet; can and will be used in court against them. The same thing could happen to us on this forum; if we were ever involved in a crime. Words are not always free - sometimes they come at a price.
I think it stops some of it, especially those crimes that are more planned but criminals are not all very smart people. We still see people robbing banks when eveybody is aware there are cameras there
Studies have been made about the profitability and risk of crime. We know many criminals are in for financial gains and not because they are addicted to violence. If criminals used some common sense they would deal drugs not rob banks or break into homes. The financial gains are higher and the sentences far lower if they ever get caught. Here in Florida you get 10 years automatically if you show your gun to another individual. That still that hasn't stopped criminals here in FL from committing violent crimes. My guess? In many cases drug addiction which clouds rationality and morals
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I love how people who present real facts are labeled racists by liberals and/or black people. real facts. not distorted ones, like the fluff I quoted above, that brainwashed and blind liberals spout off. I still can't believe he was trying to say white people glorify and take part in violence as much as Black people.
Since the country is 6% AA male yet the prisons are near 50% AA male you would think this is enough info to start to change things. You'd think they would get their collective house in order over this. You'd think there would be some shame involved too. Yet it's still the same, gimme gimme gimme is all they know.
And what is really sickening is when a responsible AA tries to point your case out they get bashed and mocked.
And those blinded by them are being led to slaughter. Ignorance is not bliss. It is deadly. No longer a nation of we do for ourselves everything we can and let the government do the rest. One of these days there will be a big "I told you so" believe it or not. To many people slept through history class or didn't take it at all or by the time they did the commie left had already infiltrated the education system to brain wash them.
Sure,the good old days...
Where if you were a woman getting beat up by your hubby,you weren't allowed to get divorced.
I guess if the 60's were so greta,we wouldn't have needed a war on poverty,much less the Civil Rights aCt.
Folks,personal antidotes do not matter,crime was higher then rather than now.
I don't think the internet has anything to do with the lower crime rates now.
When I think about it,the reverse is true.
If a man views child porn back then,well,he wouldn't get busted for looking at it,because they only had that stuff in magazines.
Now,he would get a jail sentence,because it can be viewed on the internet,whereas in the 80's he would have got away with it.
Sure,the good old days...
Where if you were a woman getting beat up by your hubby,you weren't allowed to get divorced.
Divorce was common in the 60's. Get your facts from a reliable source.
I guess if the 60's were so greta,we wouldn't have needed a war on poverty,much less the Civil Rights aCt.
War on poverty was for a power grab by liberals. Even my liberal cousin admits to it now.
Folks,personal antidotes do not matter,crime was higher then rather than now.
I don't think the internet has anything to do with the lower crime rates now.
When I think about it,the reverse is true.
If a man views child porn back then,well,he wouldn't get busted for looking at it,because they only had that stuff in magazines. They did get busted. Check you facts.
Now,he would get a jail sentence,because it can be viewed on the internet,whereas in the 80's he would have got away with it.
I think you are using the liberal antidote lingo. If crime was worse why did people leave houses unlocked and cars unlocked in shopping centers? Screen windows without steel bars. These did happen.
Sure,the good old days...
Where if you were a woman getting beat up by your hubby,you weren't allowed to get divorced.
I guess if the 60's were so greta,we wouldn't have needed a war on poverty,much less the Civil Rights aCt.
Folks,personal antidotes do not matter,crime was higher then rather than now.
I don't think the internet has anything to do with the lower crime rates now.
When I think about it,the reverse is true.
If a man views child porn back then,well,he wouldn't get busted for looking at it,because they only had that stuff in magazines.
Now,he would get a jail sentence,because it can be viewed on the internet,whereas in the 80's he would have got away with it.
Many of us, that are old enough to remember the 50's and 60's, do not remember them as dangerous times. But; you don't have to listen to us - let your fingers do the walking/searching on the internet.
I really do not want to quibble over your feelings. One crime committed on you; is one crime too many. If the jogger had survived; I am sure that he would have felt that one crime was one too many. So the question is: How do we stop that one too many crimes? What gives teenagers the notion that they can gun down people for sport? Did they go to church? Did they have any courses on morality? Do they come from single parent homes? We want to know everything to try to prevent the next one from ever happening. You cannot save a life without knowing all of the facts.
That reminds me what was said in Starship Troopers, to defeat the enemy you must know the enemy.
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