Better skyline Houston or Dallas? (Victoria, Paris: mall, exodus, bikes)

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

hahaha. seriously? those bridges look a lot nicer than the mediocre crap you overpaid Calatrava for. both freeways were designed and built at the same time, so im not sure how you can say one is a copy of another. and 75 has nothing very architecturally aesthetic, much less anything resembling a colorfully lit up arch bridge. 59 has the vegetation growing on the walls too. Dallas cant seem to keep anything alive long enough to grow on the walls of 75.
that stretch of road is like a mile long.. only a few cross roads and if you want one of those roads you just exit before the road dips. try to enter the freeway from the roads around the Klyde Warren park.. oh... you cant....i forgot.....nice try Dallas. ......

Not the same at all.....and you know this MANN!!!!...For one Woodall rodgers is a connecter freeway theres no need to get on or off during the stretch of KWP..you are passing through to 35 or 45/75.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

I don't know who told you that lie...75 re-do was finished in 1994...59 was finished in 99 or 2000

Meh, I was off by a couple years. I knew they were both under construction in the mid to late 90s. Are you jealous Houston got the more aesthetically pleasing design?

[Dallaz]

TexasTallest, stick to skyscrapers..........

[dollaztx]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Dallas' bridge to nowhere does nothing for me. If it were so great you'd be hearing about it from people outside of Dallas, but you don't. I'm sure when they built it they thought it would gain the national fame the St. Louis Arch did, but it didn't.

I prefer real bridges to somewhere. Ones that actually serve a purpose like allowing ships with millions of dollars worth of cargo to pass underneath them on a daily basis.

Nah, not really. I haven't really met anybody who was waiting for national recognition. There was a lot of local pride in it though. Same with the new one getting built. We can't wait to see it in person, haven't even thought about what outsiders think and quite frankly don't care.

[dollaztx]

Here's a couple of districts.

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

So now watching billions of dollars a year go underneath Houston's bridges is "silly nonsense"? Dallas' bridge doesn't do anything but serve a few hundred people a day allowing them to pass over a grassy flood plain.

Sea cargo is the bread & butter of Houston's economy as is every other major seaport in the World with an iconic bridge or bridges. Houston never set out to build an iconic bridge, it built one to serve the purpose you stated. Dallas' bridges/bridges will never gain iconic status despite what they intentionally designed them to be. Dallas thought it would give the city a national identity & praise from other cities, which it didn't. For the most part they've gone largely unnoticed outside of Dallas proper. Those bridges will from here on out be known in Dallas only. I'm sure if the people in say NYC or San Francisco heard about Dallas' bridges they would think its hilarious & a stupid idea as they do nothing but make the city look even more pretentious than it already is & serve no other purpose.

The bridge into West Dallas directly connects a neighborhood across the Trinity River just as bridges directly connect towards the southwest from downtown into Oak Cliff. The Houston bridge into Oak Cliff was also a signature bridge when it was built many years ago. Do you guys ever look at maps? You tend to yap in contradiction concerning the obvious in plain sight. Try google maps. It is spelt g - o - o - . . .

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

$1.4M grant awarded for lighting of bridges over Hwy 59 - Your Houston News: News

heres something you Dallas posters might like. (off topic a little but were talking about lighting and these bridges were brought up earlier) i always thought these bridges would of fit in great over the central expressway in Dallas. its about time they bring the lighting back.

(i just tried googling a picture of the bridges when they were lit up back around 2000.. cant find a single one. does anyone have a picture of them when they had the colorful lights on?)

The primary reason for those suspension bridges was because trucks were running into the ones they had prior. They weren't intended to connect neighborhoods or to be iconic. Indeed, they already had bridges placed similarly there before that weren't suspension bridges. The suspension bridges span a wider freeway that happened because of the widening of the freeway. Indeed, all this sunken portion will flood just like the rest of the majority of Houston will during a stalled tropical storm.

Quit being so dramatic getting up all in our faces like you are Dallas or something . . . "snap . . . snap . . . snap . . . snap with a Z! . . . talk to the hand! . . . talk to the hand!"

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

I like our version better!




Houston:


Dallas:


.......DALLAS PLEASE!!!!!

In the picture of Uptown and Greenway Plaza, while the first is about five miles from downtown Houston, the latter is about as far away from downtown as Preston Center is from downtown Dallas which is about four miles. I think these two centers are similar save that Preston is by and large a world famous commercial shopping district. Only recently has Greenway Plaza added shopping.

During the time Greenway Plaza was being developed in Houston, Park Central was being developed in Dallas. In fact, I can remember reading a magazine comparing and contrasting the two developments. One of the major differences was the distances they were from downtown. Again, Greenway Plaza is about four miles from downtown Houston. In contrast, Park Central is located ten miles from downtown Dallas. The Dallas Galleria today is also located about ten miles from downtown Dallas while Houston's Galleria is about six.

Why is this fact so? Well, it is because that is the distances the freeway loops are located from the two downtowns.

Also in contrast to Uptown in Houston, the Uptown area in Dallas is right next to downtown Dallas. The Dallas Market Center and the large hotel district resulting because of it, is right against Uptown. The Dallas Design District with its over 300 stores and exhibits is right against Uptown as well. The Southwestern Medical District butts right up against the Dallas Design District.

See, we don't want some poor guy in Italy reading about how Houston compares to Dallas and then, after deciding to move there, finding out later he was lied to and then hating himself for it all the while having to continue living in the area.

I didn't mean to use the L word, beloved forum members. I should have said twisted the truth around to the extent that the devil is laughing about it.

Any way, you guys are trying to argue that Houston has a continuous urban core similar to Dallas. The Texas Medical Center is miles away from both downtown and the suburban areas of Greenspoint and Uptown, and are separated by walls and walls of elevated concrete freeways. Again, the only avenue that works in Houston in the Dallas sense of that word is Montrose.

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by dollaztx

Here's a couple of districts.

And how much area separates the skyline of Uptown from downtown Dallas? Make that a big zero. How much area separates Uptown from the Dallas Design District? Again, make that a big zero. Ditto the area in miles the Dallas Market Center is from Uptown and the Dallas Design District, and the same is true of the distance the Southwestern Medical District is from the Dallas Market Center.

Downtown Houston is miles and miles away from the Texas Medical Center and the suburban area of Greenway Plaza and Uptown Houston.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by binkyman

And how much area separates the skyline of Uptown from downtown Dallas? Make that a big zero. How much area separates Uptown from the Dallas Design District? Again, make that a big zero. Ditto the area in miles the Dallas Market Center is from Uptown and the Dallas Design District, and the same is true of the distance the Southwestern Medical District is from the Dallas Market Center.

Downtown Houston is miles and miles away from the Texas Medical Center and the suburban area of Greenway Plaza and Uptown Houston.

LOLOL. By your logic...

Downtown houston is 0 miles from midtown
Midtown is 0 miles from the museum district
And the museum district is 0 miles from the Texas Medical Center