10-05-2007, 04:09 PM
Location: San Diego
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Hello all,
My significant others job may be relocating to the St. Louis area. It looks like his new place of employment would be right near Maryville University. Being that we live in San Diego and both grew up in CA, we aren't sure what areas to look in as far as living goes. We are in our mid 20's no kids and enjoy going out now and then, but don't want to far of a commute (although living in San Diego I am not sure how the commute would relate to here). Any help, advice, thoughts are appreciated!!
10-05-2007, 07:37 PM
Location: Ballwin, MO
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Maryville is smack darn in the middle of one of the most exclusive areas in St. Louis called Town & Country. Compared to San Diego, you could live anywhere near the University and still be living for less than out there. The areas close by are Creve Coeur, Chesterfield, Ballwin, Wildwood, Des Peres, Maryland Heights and just a bit further west is St. Charles and OFallon. You will be happy in any of those places. For a little more commute you would be happy anywhere in St. Louis.
10-05-2007, 10:20 PM
Location: Central Coast, CA
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Agree with Rick here for the most part. You should be able to find a nice place to live near Maryville. What the area doesn't offer is an overwhelming amount of places for "going out." The problem is that if you want to be closer to the nightlife of the city your husband will most likely be faced with the 64/40 reconstruction mess on his daily commute. It won't be fun. Some people will tell you to try and stay a bit to the north of Maryville U so you can go out in Westport (entertainment district). This is a great area to live in, but I don't consider Westport anything special for a night on the town. Definitely not worth factoring into where you're going to live. It really all depends on how bad you want to be near a nightlife scene. In any case, I think you'll find west county a very nice area to live.
10-05-2007, 11:03 PM
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you are going to have a hard time coming from mountains and oceans and no humidity. i don't recommend this move for you. i am from the area and do like it, would move back to stl instead of san diego for friends, family, and the genuineness of midwestern people. but unless you appreciate those aspects of the st. louis region (and i hope you do/can), this will not be a move for you. on a scale of "best places to live" that measures weather, economics, etc., this is not the top place in the world, and if you are looking for that, it will not measure up to san diego. in intangibles stl can in my opinion, but it will be a shock.
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Hello all,
My significant others job may be relocating to the St. Louis area. It looks like his new place of employment would be right near Maryville University. Being that we live in San Diego and both grew up in CA, we aren't sure what areas to look in as far as living goes. We are in our mid 20's no kids and enjoy going out now and then, but don't want to far of a commute (although living in San Diego I am not sure how the commute would relate to here). Any help, advice, thoughts are appreciated!!
10-06-2007, 12:46 AM
Location: Central Coast, CA
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you are going to have a hard time coming from mountains and oceans and no humidity. i don't recommend this move for you. i am from the area and do like it, would move back to stl instead of san diego for friends, family, and the genuineness of midwestern people. but unless you appreciate those aspects of the st. louis region (and i hope you do/can), this will not be a move for you. on a scale of "best places to live" that measures weather, economics, etc., this is not the top place in the world, and if you are looking for that, it will not measure up to san diego. in intangibles stl can in my opinion, but it will be a shock.
I disagree. Maybe St. Louis isn't the top place in the world to live in, but I bet you'll find a few flaws with San Diego if you look at it too.
Yes, the humidity in the summer is miserable...but fall is amazing and winters aren't that bad at all. There will be cold spells but nothing like the upper midwest. Some snow, but all that much. Call me crazy, but I kind of like winter. You can always add another layer of clothes.
Also, if you are factoring economics, as you mentioned, St. Louis has a much lower cost of living and real estate prices than that of So Cal. If her husband already has a good job lined up then they can land a house here for tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than a comparable one in San Diego. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
Most moves are what you make of it. If you leave home with a bad attitude you will be miserable, no matter where you move. I lived in St. Louis for a few years and really enjoyed it. If you go in with an open mind, and chalk everything up to new experiences than you might actually *gasp* enjoy it.
10-06-2007, 07:45 AM
Location: Illinois
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It IS All about Attitude! St. Louis is Great!
I agree!!! Life isn't just about mountains and no humidity! In St. Louis, you can have a nice home, be surrounded by great midwesterners, and there is a lot to do in St. Louis - especially as a young couple with a little time and new-found money (thanks to not having to pay San Diego prices!).
I recommend a visit and quick tour of the area with a St. Louis REALTOR. A good agent can show you the towns and find you an area that meets your lifestyle, housing requirements and budget.
If I were in my twenties (oh, how I wish!), and with no kids I'd be excited to be coming to St. Louis. Get a referral from RickMG for a St. Louis agent, and come check out the area!
Best of Luck!
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I disagree. Maybe St. Louis isn't the top place in the world to live in, but I bet you'll find a few flaws with San Diego if you look at it too.
Yes, the humidity in the summer is miserable...but fall is amazing and winters aren't that bad at all. There will be cold spells but nothing like the upper midwest. Some snow, but all that much. Call me crazy, but I kind of like winter. You can always add another layer of clothes.
Also, if you are factoring economics, as you mentioned, St. Louis has a much lower cost of living and real estate prices than that of So Cal. If her husband already has a good job lined up then they can land a house here for tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than a comparable one in San Diego. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
Most moves are what you make of it. If you leave home with a bad attitude you will be miserable, no matter where you move. I lived in St. Louis for a few years and really enjoyed it. If you go in with an open mind, and chalk everything up to new experiences than you might actually *gasp* enjoy it.
10-06-2007, 09:36 AM
Location: San Diego
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The problem is that if you want to be closer to the nightlife of the city your husband will most likely be faced with the 64/40 reconstruction mess on his daily commute.
Thank you for everyone's replies both good and bad. We are trying to make an as informed decision as possible. We had some friends who moved out their for a while (he was going to med school at WashU and she ended up teaching in the inner city. We talked to them for about an hour last night and they really liked it, but did say that coming from CA, they don
t know if they would have stayed their forever. Currently living in San Diego we live more north and are currently 20-30 minutes from the nightlife downtown area which is okay with us. Would that be about the distance of the towns you are mentioning? What does the housing prices run in those towns?
Thank you all for your help, it's really apprciated!
10-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Location: Central Coast, CA
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Thank you for everyone's replies both good and bad. We are trying to make an as informed decision as possible. We had some friends who moved out their for a while (he was going to med school at WashU and she ended up teaching in the inner city. We talked to them for about an hour last night and they really liked it, but did say that coming from CA, they dont know if they would have stayed their forever. Currently living in San Diego we live more north and are currently 20-30 minutes from the nightlife downtown area which is okay with us. Would that be about the distance of the towns you are mentioning? What does the housing prices run in those towns?
Normally that would be about the time it would take to get downtown from west county. The question is the construction of 40/64 and how much of a wrench that will throw into everything. Right now it's not a huge issue, but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.
10-08-2007, 09:06 AM
Location: Suburban St. Louis
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I don't think the OP asked for the top place to live in the world, so I don't think that should be a problem. Perhaps someone who has lived in San Diego their entire life just isn't impressed with the mountains and ocean any more.
10-11-2007, 02:49 PM
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I think I can relate moving from Cali to St. Louis. I live smack dab in the middle of florida. Yes, I did just say "smack dab" didn't I? wow...my southern roots still shine at times! ha! Anyhow, I grew up with white sandy beaches(workin on them for many years), blue-green water, palm trees and warmth all year round....so moving to St. Louis is going to be an adjustment...but for us, it is the best job move and would help us financially. I'm particularly concerned with the winters myself. Summer...no biggie. I don't think you can beat Florida humidity. LOL. But, winter....um...I'm used to 40 being the lows with 60-70s for the highs during winter. My hometown sometimes got into the 30's in the panhandle near the beach. But, I'm really hoping to find something loveable about St. Louis and these boards do give me hope!! At least St. Louisians are proud of where they live...I notice a lot of people on the FL boards complain (Im not one of those however...I LOVE FL) but, I really like how the people seem to come across in Missouri...they seem to have a more postive attitude than the big "sunshine" cities we live in. I've been to San Diego and I LOVED it there too. I'm a sucker for beautiful cities and places...I'm a designer so I think eye candy goes with job. LOL! Anyway, so I'd love to hear more about when you move and how your adjustment goes!
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People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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