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Old 09-14-2014, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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To use that speaker's own words, we anticipate "Contributions we can't predict".

If you can't predict it, how can you use it to justify the claim that "X" technology will exist by "Y" year?

Seems like a contradiction to me - if you can't predict something, then, by definition, you can't say what will happen when, since "to predict" just is to say what will happen and when it will happen.
I do not remember that statement. What time did he say and I will look at it.
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Old 09-14-2014, 02:57 AM
 
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If you can't predict it, how can you use it to justify the claim that "X" technology will exist by "Y" year?
Just checked it out (I also have read the book but it was like 6 months ago), I didn't hear "X" technology will exist by "Y" year anywhere.
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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I do not remember that statement. What time did he say and I will look at it.
It's up as his main slide at 14:07
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:06 AM
 
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Just checked it out (I also have read the book but it was like 6 months ago), I didn't hear "X" technology will exist by "Y" year anywhere.
No, but if you trace the paper trail (post trail?) you can see that Josseppie was trying to use it as a counter to my claim that such predictions were only coming from Kurzweil.
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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It's up as his main slide at 14:07
He is not talking about how information technology will advance with that statement, that is understood, but the impact of it and the 3 billion new people that it will bring in the economy. What will they bring to the economy and world?
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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No, but if you trace the paper trail (post trail?) you can see that Josseppie was trying to use it as a counter to my claim that such predictions were only coming from Kurzweil.
Well that was completely unclear so you are on the wrong here, why / how could anyone imagine what you think about when making statements if you don't write it down?

Please keep to the topic, both the threads and in this case the post.

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Reprogramming your brain with transcranial magnetic stimulation

Reprogramming your brain with transcranial magnetic stimulation | KurzweilAI
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Old 09-14-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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He is not talking about how information technology will advance with that statement, that is understood, but the impact of it and the 3 billion new people that it will bring in the economy. What will they bring to the economy and world?
So? The impact of it on the world is within the scope of the discussion, particularly when it is application in biotech.
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Old 09-14-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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Well that was completely unclear so you are on the wrong here, why / how could anyone imagine what you think about when making statements if you don't write it down?
Context! Must I make my post show the nested replies like on some other forums?

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Please keep to the topic, both the threads and in this case the post.

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Reprogramming your brain with transcranial magnetic stimulation

Reprogramming your brain with transcranial magnetic stimulation | KurzweilAI
You are proposing this will do what exactly? And how does this support any of your earlier arguments or claims?
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Old 09-14-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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Context! Must I make my post show the nested replies like on some other forums?
Yes you must, or make understand what you are talking about as we don't know about "some other forums?" or else plenty of people won't understand.

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You are proposing this will do what exactly? And how does this support any of your earlier arguments or claims?
You are repetedly using the phrase "how does this support any of your earlier arguments or claims?".
Well how can I know when you are so unspecific?

We are in a thread talking about the Singularity ( Why hasn't the Singularity gone mainstream (yet?)).
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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So? The impact of it on the world is within the scope of the discussion, particularly when it is application in biotech.
Biotech is a form of information technology and can be predicted. However I will say that is a good reason why all the models break down at 2045 as by then we will be advancing so fast we can not predict it. Why its called the singularity.
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