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Old 04-18-2009, 03:14 AM
 
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My husband and I are relocating...he is finishing up school and a job came up in santa fe. What I found interesting is that the recruiter said they prefer someone local, with ties to the area. That brought up some ?s for me. Any other thoughts? This is the first time I have outright heard of this, so it really got me thinking.
Jobseekers beware of small art towns! The first time I ever heard of it was making the dreadful mistake of moving from seattle to santa fe in '07! Just about all small art/tourist towns are this way, except Boulder, Colorado. Speaking from personal experience, the same is true over here in Flagstaff, AZ; also in Prescott, AZ and Sedona, AZ; and in New Mexico it was also the case for me in Taos and Espanola.

All of these AZ and NM towns are also very anti-business, for whatever reason they do not like big box stores like Costco and Wallmart, forcing residents to pay 30% more than the national average for food and household goods. It's a weird kind of socialism, as the control freaks encourage an elite rich class of second home owners, while the rest of us suffer paying $4 for a loaf of whole grain bread. I've never understood the opposition to Wallmart, since they do have benefits and health care. I'd like to see them get unionized, like Costco, but sadly that's not the case.

Albuquerque is very pro-business and has 18 superwallmarts and all your major national chains. The metro is 700,000+ persons. March 2009 Unemployment is only ~6%. Some businesses prefer locals, however, the city is growing so this is changing.

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Old 04-18-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Burque!
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Now hold-on one slick minute! Fighting against big-box stores is not anti-business. It's as American as it gets cowboy! Why should any town be subject to those super-businesses? Walmart, the great savior of small towns in need of cheap bread. MY @SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Walmart treats their employees and the cities they infest like crap!
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:14 PM
 
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Default Wallmart, Kucinich, And Big Box Stores

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Now hold-on one slick minute! Fighting against big-box stores is not anti-business. It's as American as it gets cowboy! Why should any town be subject to those super-businesses? Walmart, the great savior of small towns in need of cheap bread. MY @SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Walmart treats their employees and the cities they infest like crap!
Here's my opinions: Target, Best Buy, and Walgreens also have low wages, and import their merchandise from overseas.

I voted for Dennis Kucinich and am strongly anti-free trade agreements.

However, liberal politicians seem to forget that there are some of us who are poor, paying 30% more for food, since there is no Wallmart or Costco in places like Flagstaff and Santa Fe, NM.

New Mexico and Arizona are very poor states. Cheap food can help solve the problem, and is the moral, ethical, and liberal thing to do. In Grants and Gallup, NM; along with Cottonwood and Winslow, AZ; they have no problem with Superwallmart.

Why do Flagstaff and Santa Fe still have issues providing cheap food to those of us poor folks? I say their politicians are not liberal. They are Socialists favoring the Elite.

Back in Seattle where Costco began, Liberal Democrats we HAVE NO PROBLEM with big box stores. More Costcos mean higher tax receipts to pay for social programs.

Wallmart has a food center, whereas Target DOES NOT. So forget Target, and put in a Wallmart. This will also drive grocery prices down in regular grocery stores.

Also consider that Costco is a blue company founded in Seattle with excellent benefits compared to Target and Wallmart, and low prices. Costco gives back to the community and sponsors communty events. A win-win scenario to have a Costco in your small town.

Costco could be the "compromise" to this entire debate. They also sell name brand medications at very discounted rates.

Another solution is to start co-ops among neighbors and order organic food in bulk directly from the suppliers and growers.

I have never had to pay more for food prices anywhere in the US except for Flagstaff, AZ and Santa Fe, NM. These places are anti-business and not liberal in my opinion.

Agree or disagree ? Any suggestions?

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Old 04-18-2009, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe NM
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Oh No!
It's the Walmart guy again.
Why does he keep saying there is no Walmart in Santa Fe??
CLICK.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Marlborough, MA
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"Why does he keep saying there is no Walmart in Santa Fe??"

Because he likes to talk but not listen and spout opinion but not engage in conversation or friendly debate. He'll just point and scream "Elite!"

I just returned from the east coast, a very very liberal place on the east coast and food prices made Santa Fe seem cheap. The reason they can get away with it is that income levels are high, and many many of the jobs are as basic and blue collar as you can get ( like the fishing industry) but they pay well. So what many would consider the working poor, with limited education and very industry specific job skills make much more than minimum wage and can afford higher priced goods.

As far as ordering organic good in bulk from the suppliers and growers, you can join a CSA and both ABQ and SF have them. They aren't terribly cheap but they are a good value and are popular--some have waiting lists. If you want cheap and organic, grow your own.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Marlborough, MA
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"I've never understood the opposition to Wallmart, since they do have benefits and health care. I'd like to see them get unionized, like Costco"

The majority of Costco workers do not belong to a union.
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:46 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Here's my opinions: Target, Best Buy, and Walgreens also have low wages, and import their merchandise from overseas.
And about 10,000 small business's. But I rarely use Target and Best Buy. And we pretty much quit using Walgreens recently... What is your point?

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I voted for Dennis Kucinich and am strongly anti-free trade agreements.
Thank you for voting.
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However, liberal politicians seem to forget that there are some of us who are poor, paying 30% more for food, since there is no Wallmart or Costco in places like Flagstaff and Santa Fe, NM.
No you have shown us that you are not listening, reading or learning. Fact: Santa Fe has a Walmart. But I don't go to Santa Fe to shop at Walmart
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Agree or disagree ? Any suggestions?
I really don't want to read any more...Get your ducks in order. Get your facts correct. Make a point that a simple person like me can understand.

Rich
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Marlborough, MA
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I drive through Flag on the way to PHX a couple of times a year and was pretty sure I saw a WalMart there. I checked their website and they have a Walmart Supercenter. So you're two for two, Tom.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Santa Fe NM
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OMG, this is too funny.
Look here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninna_r/3136511846/ - broken link).
Here.
Here.
And here.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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Have you ever thought of opening a Co-Op!!??

Get together with your neighbors and like minded people and with local farmers and start a co-op!

Also make your own bed! I mean Bread!! One of those machines on ebay cost under 200 dollars and you have wonderful bread all day!! hum, hum!!

If you don't know how? There are plenty of people who will give you advice in Portland or even Philadelphia!!!

And yes, Large stores kills small and mid sized stores and kills individuality! Tourism is based on creativity not on every state looking like the other, with no small stores and just large box like mega stores!!

And even though I love the Walmarts in New Oreleans and Hate the one in Philadelphia, the fact is that one large swallows up to @15 small and the midsized! Personally, I go to Walmarts 2x's a year and we have several in the northeast corridor. Instead I go to the Asian Supermarket!! which is way cheaper!!

good luck!


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Jobseekers beware of small art towns! The first time I ever heard of it was making the dreadful mistake of moving from seattle to santa fe in '07! Just about all small art/tourist towns are this way, except Boulder, Colorado. Speaking from personal experience, the same is true over here in Flagstaff, AZ; also in Prescott, AZ and Sedona, AZ; and in New Mexico it was also the case for me in Taos and Espanola.

All of these AZ and NM towns are also very anti-business, for whatever reason they do not like big box stores like Costco and Wallmart, forcing residents to pay 30% more than the national average for food and household goods. It's a weird kind of socialism, as the control freaks encourage an elite rich class of second home owners, while the rest of us suffer paying $4 for a loaf of whole grain bread. I've never understood the opposition to Wallmart, since they do have benefits and health care. I'd like to see them get unionized, like Costco, but sadly that's not the case.

Albuquerque is very pro-business and has 18 superwallmarts and all your major national chains. The metro is 700,000+ persons. March 2009 Unemployment is only ~6%. Some businesses prefer locals, however, the city is growing so this is changing.
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