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Old 10-19-2007, 08:24 PM
 
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A friend is looking to move to San Diego. She is an oracle certified associate PL/SQL programmer and DBA. She has also done some entry level Linux certification.

Are there any jobs available in this field? Where should she look for them?

Thanks
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:53 PM
 
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A friend is looking to move to San Diego. She is an oracle certified associate PL/SQL programmer and DBA. She has also done some entry level Linux certification.

Are there any jobs available in this field? Where should she look for them?

Thanks
There are jobs, but most people are looking for senior-level talent. For example I am trying to hire a DB Developer right now (SQL Server 05 / SSIS / TSQL) and I get either hardcore DBA guys (who are not devs) or total greenhorns. I can't settle for entry-level because there is too much work and I need someone who can hit the ground running.

It has been very tough to find truly good people who have both the experience and the interpersonal skills to succeed. The solid, senior level guys have the SD market in the palm of their hands right now, they all have jobs and if they are looking, it isn't for long.

The best advice I would give your friend is to start with the biggest companies. Mitchell, Intuit and First American are Oracle shops if I remember correctly. The bigger companies are more apt to take an entry-level hire and give them the mentoring and attention they need. However they are tough to get into as a starter unless you have great degree or something else to make you stand out.

The small shops have no support structure for new hires and no training programs for junior people. Only go to the small shops if you are very confident and are willing to take the 'sink or swim' approach.

DBA is the type of job where experience really matters, no one is going to let a junior staffer touch the million-dollar box with all the company's financials on it. You have to start small and get in where you can.
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:12 PM
 
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Sassberto is very right.

Fedfan: tell ur friend when applying DBA position, don't say "I'm certified associate PL/SQL programmer and DBA", unless position specifying programming experience.
say "I'm an certified DBA and linux SA" is better.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:38 PM
 
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Default join a consulting firm

the quickest way to gain experience these days is as a consultant. its pretty hard to get an entry level job as an FTE. I can say that all our junior positions are occupied by consultants. One more note, anytime someone sends me a resume with the word 'certified' at the very top 'lack of experience' comes to mind - - we all start somewhere. I started as a consultant several years ago, made next to nothing for a couple of years, developed some hard core experience and never looked back...
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:02 AM
 
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Default considering becoming a DBA

hello,
i am a fairly technical person, although i am not terribly skilled with computers per se. i've always had an interest, and i am considering making the transition to a career in database management. but i am trying to learn more about what i am getting myself into exactly. considering how many more experienced people there are in the market than myself, what is the best approach for me to begin a career in IT? is it help desk? or desktop support? is there some way for me to become a database person WITHOUT taking a $1-2000 certification class? what sort of job can i expect to get starting in IT? is there a particular certification i should get to start? one that has the most entry-level jobs maybe? please write back. i'm trying to do this ASAP. thx.

loco
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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hello,
i am a fairly technical person, although i am not terribly skilled with computers per se. i've always had an interest, and i am considering making the transition to a career in database management. but i am trying to learn more about what i am getting myself into exactly. considering how many more experienced people there are in the market than myself, what is the best approach for me to begin a career in IT? is it help desk? or desktop support? is there some way for me to become a database person WITHOUT taking a $1-2000 certification class? what sort of job can i expect to get starting in IT? is there a particular certification i should get to start? one that has the most entry-level jobs maybe? please write back. i'm trying to do this ASAP. thx.

loco
Probably the easiest is a phone job/help desk with a MOS.
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