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Old 05-06-2010, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Nah I do not believe that is correct...God makes life...God makes life Good..God is the maker of Humans...Humans are not to make more humans..they are abomonations to the lord...

Love of God is perfect...and clean...and holy...and true...
Let us not pervert that.

Now what Humans are doing with sex and their unbridled lusting and sexual conduct is by far the furthest thing from Love that there ever could be!
For who would bring such things to mind as Beastiality, Pedophilia, Rape, Gaydome and lesbianizum...and then the sexually lude and rude...
All these things are all mentioned in a nutshell in the Bible...which is suppose to be the word of God...and his son...who said "Do no more sin and be forgiven" to the prostitute!

So what was her sin?...SEX for money? what if she loves sex?
And people having sex with animals..?....If they love the animal then it is correct to d this?....

So we have to draw some lines and control our stupidity!
One such practice is to mind what is said, and quote things properly so we do not make mistakes...

God said he makes life...So the delusion that is upon the human race is that they can make life like God....and it has still not yet been proven to be a eternal state of truth.

But God has sent his son...who cannot Die..because God made him as living proof!

Now Jesus says be like me...follow me...Do as I have done...be sinless!
And in that God can forgive those who obey, and fulfill his word and will!

The love of eachother is not sexual in nature, that Jesus was asking of us...but in caring for the greator Good of the whole...correction of the errors they do...not by killing, but by education, and salvation of those who stop sinning!

Those who care about God and Jesus Christ, will do what they ask, because it is righteously sound and clean, and appearent that bent Lusting and sexual ludeness is causing all kinds of problems for Humankind....and God and his Son...(the rewards are STD'S)

So to do the opposite of God and His Son Who point out what is meant By (LOVE each other as I have loved you) only brings in suffering, sickness, sorrows, pain, hatred, mockery, and lies and liars, if they do not listen and do as they were told!

Love is not a sexual thing!...it is a caring for the greator good of all things God made.

God says "who are all of these?"...those are the ones who listened and fulfilled his will and word!

God made Adam a Helper named Eve..."man and woman"...a pair...helpers of the Garden....nothing more!...they made error before God...error after error after error...after error...to this day not listening!

Not listening and not doing What God intended us to do, and intended us to live by way of his commandments laws and precepts....


Marrigae was created By Man to move in a backwards direction towards the rejoining and pre sinning state of the first ADAM...Joining back what God split appart....so that they could reenter the estate of the first ADAM in symbolic terms, before the original sin...so they could correct their error Together for God to forgive them both!

So putting back what was taken in disobediance is restored sinlessly...which reverse the curse of death.

That was the idea for the Joining in wedlock!...nothing to do with SEX or procreation!...although it has been bent to that view!
Oh please. Having sex with someone you love is an expression of that love. It is not a sin. Why do you think our bodies are made the way they are. Not just for procreation but to enjoy each other and express our love for each other. Homosexuals can do the same.

You continue to live as a barbarian if you want. I'm gonna enjoy this life with the one I love and express that love in every way.

 
Old 05-06-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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Oh please. Having sex with someone you love is an expression of that love. It is not a sin. Why do you think our bodies are made the way they are. Not just for procreation but to enjoy each other and express our love for each other. Homosexuals can do the same.

You continue to live as a barbarian if you want. I'm gonna enjoy this life with the one I love and express that love in every way.
Some folks don't understand that without the insatiable sex drive with which all mankind is born most of us would not be here...maybe all.

Throughout the animal kingdom and actually all life itself reproduction is the first priority...thank goodness.
 
Old 05-06-2010, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Some folks don't understand that without the insatiable sex drive with which all mankind is born most of us would not be here...maybe all.

Throughout the animal kingdom and actually all life itself reproduction is the first priority...thank goodness.
God forbid we "create" children. I'd hate to see this place without them.
 
Old 05-06-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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God did not create the marriage ceremony, man did. So, anything outside of LOVE is a sin. That means any two people who love each other can have sex outside of the man made ceremony. Adam and Eve were not married by your standards and that is not what their sin was. Ask God, not your preacher. God will tell you that LOVE is the guiding force behind His laws. The marriage ceremony was created by man to help upstep the human race. Is is null and void in the spirit world as a piece of paper has no bearing in the realm. LOVE is what God created. Anything outside of that in a "marriage" is a sin. Two heterosexuals who do not love each other yet are married by man made laws, are sinners in the eyes of God. A piece of paper makes no difference when it comes to Love.
Sure He did.

Genesis 2

24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
 
Old 05-06-2010, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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actually sex was only meant for procreation-anything else is actually a sin even within marriage,this was the first laws given to man,and it also had meaning in preventing over-population-now im goin to explain that just because it is sin-dosent necessarily mean its BAD or WRONG-bad or wrong means hurting people and if nobody is getting hurt then what harm is being done-but what the sin does mean is that it prevents one from becoming pure in body/mind/soul-.........................this level of purity goes beyond what most people think-in othwr words to purify the mind/body/soul one has to follow the regulative principles-and illicit sex is one of them,other wise their is karma involved........sex is actually our biggest addiction,if you ask someone to give up sex it would be very hard and most wouldnt even try-...............because it is a material sense pleasure it keeps us attached to the body and when one is attached to the pleasures of the body then one must take birth in a material body,so thats all that this sin does it keeps us attached to the material pleasures of the body and in doing so nature forces us to take birth again and again untill we free ourselves of the material condition.
Wrong!

Hebrews 13

4Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
 
Old 05-06-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: PA
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God did not create the marriage ceremony, man did. So, anything outside of LOVE is a sin. That means any two people who love each other can have sex outside of the man made ceremony. Adam and Eve were not married by your standards and that is not what their sin was. Ask God, not your preacher. God will tell you that LOVE is the guiding force behind His laws. The marriage ceremony was created by man to help upstep the human race. Is is null and void in the spirit world as a piece of paper has no bearing in the realm. LOVE is what God created. Anything outside of that in a "marriage" is a sin. Two heterosexuals who do not love each other yet are married by man made laws, are sinners in the eyes of God. A piece of paper makes no difference when it comes to Love.
God did create the marriage ceremony. We repeat it to this day whenever a father gives his daughter away, he is reinactinig God (the father) presenting Eve to Adam. After this God said "It is very good"! This is the marriage formula.

The paper is something that the government issues to verify you are married, but it is not marriage. Just like a birth certificate cannot make you born, but is merely a proof of the time and place of your birth!
 
Old 05-06-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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Wrong!

Hebrews 13

4Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
-if you want to free yourself from the cycle of birth and death then becoming spiritually pure is essential-now let me ask you do you know how to become spiritualy pure -and one awnser that wont work is-well we beleive in God and when we die we will be pure,er no you have to do when your alive,other wise how are you gonna reach the spiritual sky without becoming pure in mind/body/soul...................there is a process-you wont do it one lifetime unless your really really eally really blessed
 
Old 05-06-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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Marriage as we know it, formalized and institutionalized by the govt. did not come about in England until the the Hardwicke Marriage Act of 1753. Before then, it was only a church affair with wedding banns. In the colonies, it was a hodgepodge of laws some making no sense to us today like having marriage bonds and yes then it was common to buy a wife and have her shipped to the colonies. Licenses came about when they got rid of banns which were not practical when families were seperated by long distances; we could go back to banns now that we have the internet and get the govt. out of the entire thing.
 
Old 05-06-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Sure He did.

Genesis 2

24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
And the basis for a marriage is LOVE, not a piece of paper. So, two people living together, in love, hetero or homosexual, are married if they love one another.

No where in your bible does it say that there has to be a piece of paper indication marriage. God basis everything on love, nothing more.
 
Old 05-06-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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God did create the marriage ceremony. We repeat it to this day whenever a father gives his daughter away, he is reinactinig God (the father) presenting Eve to Adam. After this God said "It is very good"! This is the marriage formula.

The paper is something that the government issues to verify you are married, but it is not marriage. Just like a birth certificate cannot make you born, but is merely a proof of the time and place of your birth!
If you really want to get technical and want to keep it between male and female then you need to look deeper. Look to the soul instead of the temporary human body that we wear. A female soul in a male body and a male soul in a male body can be married in the eyes of God. Yet you cling to the temporary material world for things that should be spiritual. Look to Love and you will see that two beings who love each other are definately in harmony with God whether they are heterosexual or homosexual.
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